Kathryn Mussell - The Two Secret Fears of Visionary Entrepreneurs and How to Rise Above Them

00:03  Hello everyone, and welcome to this summit hope you're having a great time so far and you are getting everything you need and more out of this wonderful event put together by Cat Griffin and so I'm very, very humbled and very grateful to be a part of this event. My name is Kathryn Mussell. I am an I'm a mentor i'm a, I'm a mentor and someone who's been wearing many metaphysical hats over about 25 years now doing the work that I do as a master energy healer, mentor, teacher, author, speaker, and my great love, my great passion mission calling all that stuff Purpose is to help visionary dream makers map their bold visions and ideas into tangible reality.    

00:57  I love dreaming big and having bold visions, but also grounding that into something that is, you know, reachable, tangible, practical and it may not be for everybody i would say that most days I'm an acquired taste or, you know, people who are living in, let's just say, a kind of reality where they feel it's very malleable nothing is fixed. I happen to operate from that paradigm. That potential is always ripe within and around us at all times.    

01:33  But it's really incumbent upon us to be willing to see it and so that's why I love working with visionaries that's why I love to work with people who don't see things as being outside of the box. They see themselves as the box. They're the ones that get to define what goes in this particular vessel, what comes out of this vessel. And we are infinitely more creative than we allow ourselves to believe we are. And those of us who identify as visionaries. What I've found in doing the work that I do over a couple decades now is that there are two secret fears that aren't really talked about in a lot of coaching and mentoring circles and programs and courses etcetera and so I want to address those here because chances are, if you're here in the summit, you have felt one or both of these wounds, secret fears that are maybe not so secret to you over a lifetime maybe you felt them together, maybe you felt them separately, maybe you're feeling them right now.    

02:35  And so I wanted to offer this perspective to you that there are two secret fears that visionary entrepreneurs, conscious creators have and how to rise above them so that's what I'm going to talk about here today so if you want to find out more about me quick, little, you know, little plug here catherinemasell.com I'm on sub stack i am on YouTube, all under my name, Catherine Masell with Catherine with Ryn. And you can find me on Facebook i'm not on there a ton youtube sub stack. That's where you're going to find me the most i have a school community called Visionary School, which is our platform for using the mirror principle, as I like to call it, the Unity principle i'm going to talk about that in a second and how to use that so that you can understand that you are everything and everyone under different circumstances and So what I'm going to talk about here today is given to you within that context, within that metaphysical premise of the Unity principle.    


03:36  Everything is you pushed outwards, everything and everyone is you, just under different circumstances. And when you use this with your visionary gifts, life can take on a really seamless and beautiful and simple elegance. And that's that's the basis I love to teach from and that's the spirit in which I'm offering this to you here today so if all this sounds good, let's get into it. So what are these two secret fears and how do we rise above them so there are twin spectres that haunt the visionary soul.    

04:13  They are obscurity and futility. Now, these are not just passing doubts they are core wounds they are encoded in the psyche of those who came here to usher in a new world. Yet they can often, those of us who have these two secret fears core wounds, I'm going to use those terms interchangeably. We often feel invisible within the old world. That's because we're not part of that we're a, we're a strange creature to that old world we may have always felt that way, even since we were little kids. And that maybe on a deeper level, something we couldn't really tap into or articulate in a certain way maybe not up until now.    

04:50  That we're here to bring in something new, something more wholesome for humanity and we're here to use our unique gifts and talents and unique snowflake energetic signature, unique genius frequency in order to bring that in to, to be the conduit for that. So let's talk about the core wound of obscurity first. This is something, if you study the gene keys, I have obscurity security as one of the shadows in my chart. And it's a big one i felt this by whole life. And so I, I probably have a very intimate relationship with this particular fear shadow wound.    

05:27  It's the fear of never being seen or understood. And for the visionary, you know, for the fearless visionary entrepreneur, obscurity isn't just about low visibility. It's that kind of aching feeling that the world doesn't know what to do with you, right. You may resonate with that right away. You don't fit into existing molds. Your ideas are too vast, too ahead, too untranslatable for, let's just say, conventional minds, OK? You're not here for convention you're built for something else. And when the world doesn't recognize your frequency, it can be very easy for us to internalize that as you know maybe I'm not meant to be seen.    

06:06  Maybe I'll just always be this voice calling out from the void. Unheard, unheard, unnoticed, unrecognized. I'll remain invisible. None of those things are true but when you have this wound, it can inner have this inner reflection on you as that, and then that's what your thoughts will turn, will turn to it's not true. Those don't represent facts, but that's how we may internalize it. And so this wound, you know, it can often we internalize those thoughts. How it manifests as as actions is usually in the form of self sabotage so we hide before the world can ignore us or reject us. Ok does that sound familiar? So it's a form of energetic retreat when we self sabotage.    

06:51  And this is born from lifetimes. You know, I'll bet you dollars to Donuts that this is not just you and your ancestral legacy bringing this through. This might have been something that was, you know, handed off a baton of shadow handed off to you that, you know, you took in this lifetime you thought was completely yours well, for a lot of people who identify as visionaries, the conscious creators, that shit was there before you were even born. Ok, it's in your DNA, but here's the metaphysical truth about this. Obscurity is not your reality.    

07:24  Actually, it's your initiation. Yes, it's an initiation. If you see it as a portal or threshold to walk through, you can instantly like that. Change your perspective on why this might be here for you now number one, it's there to show you through the contrast the conflict you might feel is this obscurity obscurity wound. You will understand then a visionary isn't supposed to fit into existing structures. You are not here to reach the masses you're not here to go viral maybe, you know, maybe you're not here to speak to everybody And, you know, we can go can go two ways with this obscurity wound either we we pull back on our message and we try to be vague or we, you know, dumb it down so we can reach more people.    

08:08  That is the kiss of death virginia, don't do that if you find yourself doing that, please don't. Ok. And I'm going to give you some tools to take this energy that we you'd normally used to be invisible or make yourself, you know, dimmed down in your light i'm going to give you some tools to transmute that energy and plug this into some higher and better, more elevated use and repurposing this energy oK, so stick around. You are here to shape what doesn't yet exist. Ok? That's not going to be for everybody.    

08:37  You may not be for everybody and that's OK. That's totally all right. But here's the thing if you go the other way with this wound, which is the one is to be invisible, retreat, self sabotage, dull your message down, you are meant to get actually go the other way. Get even more specific. Be bold in your message and make it even more clear. Make sure you know who you're speaking to with your message. Articulate yourself well because that's your gift. You'll find your people through that. Your obscurity is actually your training ground. Ok, so when you are trying to force yourself to cultivate some relationship with the masses, I'll be honest, it's probably not for you and that's probably why it's never really fit and why you have this constant frustration and overwhelm because you're trying to speak to everybody and really as a visionary, you end up speaking to no one.    

09:31  So this, this unshakable relationship with you that you have with your vision before you put things out there, before you put out a post, a new program, if you're being a keynote speaker, anything like that. Sit with your message for a while, establish your relationship with it give it space, OK? Because the more you do that, you won't run the risk of having the reflection of the world try to dilute that for you or make you feel like you have to dumb it down. When you have that intimacy with the things you're here to bring forth into the tangible 3D World of action, then it's like it's yours you have this beautiful relationship with it it's like your pet, kind of.    

10:16  You want to do everything for it you want to take care of it, right? That's what happens when you give your your vision, your message, your course, your program offering whatever. Give it the space so you can develop a relationship with it that helps the obscurity go away because if you have the obscurity within you, it's going to translate in the outer world the mirror reflection of reality will feel obscure to other people too. Ok, so the second one, the second secret fear, this core wound futility, the fear that it won't matter anyway.    

10:49  And so let's call it the elephant in the room. You know, we are in a pretty crazy timeline here on mothership birth and there's a lot of shake up. Things are being uprooted our lives are being leveled sometimes, you know, it's it's a very unstable world and we cannot go forward and expect stability to show up outside of us, outside of us, just a mirror for what's going on in our Interstate.    

11:15  If you want an unshakable relationship with who you are as a visionary, the way you identify with yourself as a visionary, a conscious creator, you have to create that stability inside. Ok, So if obscurity is the fear of never being seen, futility is the deeper, quieter terror that's that's the feeling that even if I am seen, will it change anything? Ok. And that's you using too much of the reflection of what's going on in the world to inform your visionary gifts.    

11:47  Again, another kiss of death. It's the other way we've got it backwards. You are here to use your visionary gifts, your talents, your unique skill set, your your snowflake, your snowflake energetic signature, your genius frequency to elevate past what is. If you keep using what is the reflection and your permission slip to either do or not do things as a visionary, you are killing your creative energy. Quit doing that, OK we need you the world needs you, The world needs your vision, OK? So this is the moment when we have this inner realization maybe you know what, maybe I'll put this out there, but is it going to make any difference isn't it can't even change anything.    

12:32  Let go of the idea that what you're here to do or even who you are creates any kind of lasting legacy, OK? There's too much ego involved in that. And even though there might be some spiritual ego involved in that too, thinking that this is going to, you know, create waves of change in the world, who knows maybe it will but that's not for you to decide that's not for any of us here to decide. The only thing that we can control and have a responsibility for is showing up in our authentic, genuine nature, our true voice intact, our message clear and strong, knowing who the F we're talking to and why what's our bigger why behind it all, OK.    

13:16  And it can't be something external like I'm going to get X amount of money for this i'm going to get X amount of clients for this i'm going to leave this legacy behind. There has to be some altruism really driving your why for why you do what you do so I invite you to contemplate that. And when you don't, you know, this is this is that kind of point, that jumping off point on the precipice of something great or jumping down a hole. This is where a lot of visionary creators can spiral. You know, they they see the magnitude of the world's inertia and they wonder if their efforts will ever amount to anything more than just a ripple and an ocean of unconsciousness.    

13:59  That is your wound talking that's you looking out at the world through the wound of futility that breeds kind of existential exhaustion, the kind of, you know, incessant asking of what's the point, right? And then the feeling that anchors that it's lousy, it feels terrible. That is an energetic frequency that true visionaries, conscious creators, cannot afford to have. It's important to feel it as it happens, to have the tools to allow that feeling to move through but realize i am not that feeling.    

14:32  I am not that emotion, I am not that thought. And that when we don't create that kind of movement, allow that energy to cycle through, have that feeling, have it today, and then move on, then you'll feel this pull to abandon your work before it gains momentum how many times have you have you given up on something that you feel like didn't create the traction or the momentum that you wanted to see right away again, too much ego involved. Ok. And then we abandoned ship on something that might have been a great idea, but what if we were a day away from having that really take root and, and fly and soar? You know, if you're fighting against the gravity of the status quo and you're creating your inner standards by what's happening out there, That's that's, it's a, it's an illusion.    

15:22  It's a, it's a farce. Ok, here's the greater truth. Futility is an illusion born from linear thinking. You're not here for that. And if you, if you want to really get into what I'm saying here, have you ever noticed that when you've had your most creative, impulsive moments where you just felt like intuition hitting and all the bells and whistles going off and whatever, did it feel linear to you? Like you might have had an idea to put something together and you put put those pieces together in a way where it didn't, you know, coalesce with your linear mind.    

15:59  Like maybe you went to the end result of what it could do and then maybe you were somewhere in the middle and then maybe you were somewhere at the end again and then maybe you somewhere in the beginning. Like the structure of it took hold from different places in time and that's all an illusion too. But you're not here to birth beautiful things into the world from linear thinking. So when you are, you know, getting down on yourself about like the timeline for things that should happen in such a way because that's how it's happening for everybody else or this should lead to that and lead to that. Please do not bind yourself to that.    

16:34  You're here to think differently you're here to come from a different groove of life. Honor that. Honor that. Again, give it space. Ok, in in the quantum reality, one shift in consciousness shifts the whole. So understand that when you feel this futility, your work is not just about what you can measure. And when we're looking for external optics and metrics to give us the permission slip or the feedback, like, OK, I'm in good territory now. Again, another kiss of death for the visionary. You don't have the same standards of measures that everyone else does, does on the planet the same that that that holds up for the status quo.    

17:17  You're here for something different. It's about the vibrational architecture that you're reinforcing again, coming from a place of authenticity, coming from place of your unique vision, your unique voice, your unique message, offer, program service etcetera. Your vision, fully expressed, alters reality itself. You have to learn to trust that because it's one of those things that you're going to have to see it in here before you see it out there you're going to have to believe it in here before you're given evidence to believe it out there.    

17:50  And you're not going to see your vision take hold in the world in obvious ways because those of us who are really visionary conscious creators, we learn to birth something and then let it go, detach, surrender like once it's out there in the 3D reality world of form, it takes on a life of its own, life of its own. And we we have to be the, the, the Mama deer that notices this thing is out there on wobbly legs, the defenseless, vulnerable dough bond and say, you know what, it's OK i can love it from afar.    

18:24  I can still kind of, you know, hold the vibration of what I want the end result to be, what I what I want the flavor to be for this thing without feeling i have to micromanage every little thing thing because again, too much ego involved visionary conscious creators we don't need to do that. We have to trust that our vision can have a life of its own.    

18:45  We're here to birth it we're here to put it out there. Ok, so how do you begin healing these wounds? How do you how do you take the alchemy of visibility and impact? We're going to put them together in some beautiful hodgepodge of divine creational alchemy. The the path beyond obscurity and futility isn't about trying harder to be seen, trying harder to make an impact. That's an external chase. Again, you're not here for that. It's more about anchoring into the certainty that your vision is real, your vision is powerful it's meant to exist even before you see any validation of it in quote unquote, the outside world. It is about shifting from seeking recognition to broadcasting your frequency relentlessly, staying true to yourself, being impactful through your authenticity, and not backing down from that oK.    

19:47  Your visibility isn't about who sees you, it's about how fully you express yourself. And you feel good about that at the end of the day, like this is really me i'm not wearing a mask. This is down a facade. This is me. And the more I, and the more I show up on, often in authenticity, I know that the more confident, the more courageous I feel, the greater my message is, the greater my impact is. And the third thing is detaching from the illusion of linear cause and effect. The work you do doesn't just impact the obvious.    

20:23  Ok, it sends ripples to the unseen layers of collective consciousness in ways that you'll probably never see in this lifetime. That's why the true visionary needs to detach, often, early and often. Ok, your visibility, it's a frequency. It's not an algorithmic outcome. Ok, Obscurity and futility lose their grip when you realize that you don't need the whole world to see you, you just need the right people to see you. How are they going to see you unless you're being authentically you? Those are the people who are coded to your vision and you are coded to them and in ways again that we can't understand we're soul family.    

21:04  We're meant to connect with each other. How can we find each other unless we're being absolutely true and authentic in who we truly are? You don't need to make a billion dollar impact. You don't need to make, you know, a multi million dollar impact overnight. Your work already reshapes the energetic grid of what's possible. It's already doing that. Again, trust is a major part of this, major part of being a visionary and birthing something new and more wholesome in the world. And your frequency, it's not measured by who follows you, OK, Remember, our work exists beyond optics and metrics. Ok? That's a fairly new innovation, you know, technologically speaking.    

21:53  What about the visionaries that came before social media? You know, were they honestly looking at all of these external measures to track how well they were doing? Absolutely fucking not. Pardon my French, I do swear a lot i'm a passionate teacher. Your frequency is not measured by who follows you, but rather by how relentlessly you emit your truth. Ok, so you are not obscure. You are emerging you are unfolding into more of yourself. You are not futile. You are initiating the unseen. Learn how to hold these frequencies and the shift is inevitable be patient and you'll find that things accelerate. Ok, Don't hope for overnight shifts.    

22:39  Visionaries aren't here for quantum leaps and overnight shifts. Not in the way that all the marketing jargon in the spiritual marketplace likes to hype it up as this massive change overnight. The the visionary changes they come from and and are really anchored until the long term because they have a slow burn. Trust that. Ok, so I taught a workshop a little while ago called Against the Grain, and that's where I'm sharing some of the stuff right here today with you from this workshop so I'm going to share a couple things that remember I promised you at the beginning of this talk i'm going to give you a way to take those wounds and shadows because it's all just energy, right? And so it just transmutes, it just gets repurposed.    

23:24  But are we being conscious and deliberate about how we are repurposing that energy? So imagine you're taking the shadow and these core fears, these core wounds and plugging them in to something more elevated in terms of frequency. So the visionary and the way I taught this class, there's an alchemy to her, to him, made-up of certain archetypes, the visionary archetype, the Mystic, the wild one, or the sacred rebel, as I call it, the maverick and the philosopher. These five archetypes, they help you breakthrough outdated systems so I'm going to share just the first three with you and for any of you who want to reach out to me, contact at kathrynmussell.com.    

24:09  And you want to be able to take this workshop. This exists in one place only in visionary school this is my online school platform. And this whole workshop against the grain and the full explanation of the five archetypes, including a recalibration energetic exercise to kind of tidy all this up at the end, that all exists in visionary school so you can reach out to me if this interests you and you want to take this work further. So a conscious creator, a visionary, it's not just one thing. She or he is not just one thing. It's really this kind of amalgam, this alchemy and these five key archetypes allows you to be really an unstoppable force in your visionary energy.    

24:52  You know, one that doesn't need to challenge the status quo, but rather taking the alchemy of this energy renders the status quo obsolete. Sounds juicy, right so each archetype carries a unique power, a unique level of plugging into the world, a mode of operation, a level of perception and when those are all woven together, they create a kind of creative force that's unfakeable, uncontainable, undeniable, unforgettable in their impact. So I'm going to break down the first three out of five for you because I want to keep this nice and tidy and tight.    

25:31  So number one the visionary. The visionary as an archetype is one who sees beyond the system. And each one of these archetypes, they have a primary gift and the primary gift of the visionary is perception of the future before it arrives. So a visionary sees what others don't and not because they're daydreamers, but because they operate from a higher vantage point. They witness, you know, a trajectory of a trajectory of reality before the mainstream even realizes there's a shift occurring right. And there's ways that the visionary breaks certain pre-existing systems arises above them. Visionaries are really good at you know, they they realize you don't try to fight the system. They built something so compelling that the old system Withers from irrelevance oK, you think about an artist like David Bowie no longer with us.    

26:32  Incredible visionary. Incredible visionary. One of those quotes that I love so much, he's a fellow Capricorn like I am, is that when you are an artist and you try to play to the gallery, you try to play to what the people want, you lose your artistic integrity, you lose the the full scope of your creativity and you get lost in pleasing and the artistry is lost to you that creative thread where you're pulling things down from the ether and you become a conduit for wants to come through at a certain time. You lose that if you try to play to the gallery.    

27:09  So, you know, regardless of what your opinions on him might be, he operated through this lens of the visionary, not fighting, you know, the traditional music industry. You know, he was talking about gender bending like he was the one that did that. There were some others too, but he made it cool he made it, you know, funky and wild, and then brought great music through as well. He shifted the music industry forever, arguably. So if you want to embody more of that archetype, stop waiting for others to validate your vision. Stop playing to the gallery. Bleed with the reality you see.    

27:47  Be steadfast about that beast out of heart when you talk about it. Be unflinchingly committed to your vision, no matter what the naysayers are going to come at you with and there will be naysayers, trust me. Speak about your ideas as if they are already inevitable. So number two the mystic. The Mystic is the one who knows reality is malleable. Yeah, nothing is fixed.    

28:15  Nothing is fixed. The primary gift of the Mystic is access to the quantum mechanics of creation, of creation i love that description. So, Mystics, understand that reality is a mirror. Remember I talked about the very beginning, the mirror principle, unity principle. The mirror that is out of reality is simply a reflection it's a projection of your inner state of being. Ok, Mystics intrinsically understand this they operate from this premise and all that they do, that reality is a mirror and that transformation happens internally before it ever manifests externally.    

28:53  They Co create with the unseen, they make strange bedfellows, but they are a collaborative force. Then the frequency of that alchemy, the unseen, the unmanifest that wants to come through, that has its time. All great ideas have their time. That involves a lot of trust as well. And when you feel like a great idea percolating, germinating, gestating inside, you understand and have a lot of trust and faith like I wouldn't have awareness of it if it wasn't time for this to come through. And there's something about my energy that makes me a great conduit to bring it out. Don't operate from any faults and urgency with urgency when you feel this, just understand this particular frequency that you have, it's like a sculpting tool so that you can bring this idea that has is it's come at a time where it needs to come through.    

29:49  It's come to you you're the tool, you're the conduit, you're the force, you're the swift river, this current that's running all the time. And you take this idea and you can run with it and bring it through and establish some momentum with it. But you have to be unflinching with that. That means that you cannot be operating at the mercy of control mechanisms based on fear, scarcity, false urgency. That's the 3D matrix. That's the outer world of illusion. You have to, as a Mystic, disrupt the idea that struggle equals progress. What if it was easy? What if you, instead of, you know, trying to fight or wrestle or manipulate or control this message, this impulse coming through? What if instead it just was allowed to move through you because you're the right conduit there's nothing you have to do except bring it in and not resist it and not resist it.    

30:50  The other thing that Mystics do is they show the power that they show the power is isn't something given by any external authority. There's no permission given and if you think there is, that's not the energy of the Mystic. When you have a kind of energetic mastery, you're allowing emotions and feelings to move through you in a powerful way without resisting them.    

31:13  You're going to realize something really special, that you're available for more of the creative flow creative flow that's already there that already is all the abundance that already is, because you're no longer resisting it. You're letting it happen. And no longer behind the cloud or the veil or the filter behind emotions that maybe up until now you believed were you that told the story about you when you let your feelings flow, you know, untethered and you don't attach to them with a story or linking them to a past or a situation where you still feel like you're stunted or frozen in time.    

31:48  Your your natural Mystic abilities just shine because you're not resisting anything. So Neville Goddard, if you know anything about Neville Goddard, he had real had reality creation teachings he talked about the mirror principle, he talked about the law of assumption you can Google him, you can look him up. He was brilliant at being able to dismantle the paradigm of hard work by proving that imagination leads reality, not the other way around.    

32:17  He was a true Mystic, powerful, powerful teacher too if you haven't checked out his teachings, go do that, especially if you recognize yourself as having the visionary alchemy within you. And if you want to start embodying this archetype, stop engaging with systems that rely on fear, guilt, or shame. Maybe pull your attention just a little bit more off the social media. The Mystics energy is built on creativity rather than consumption so if you notice that you're someone's consuming more than you're creating, that's a lopsided way of operating as a Mystic and it's not really going to work so you're going to want to change the, the, the ordering around on that, start creating more and consuming less.    

33:00  And then the third one I'm going to talk about here, the wild one, the sacred rebel, the one who refuses to be tamed. So the primary gift of the sacred rebel is liberation from conditioning, liberation from consensus reality. So the wild 1 is not here to be domesticated the wild one can is feral, especially when it comes to outdated structures, because the sacred rebel was not born to fit in. And you might feel that way you might have felt that way your whole life oK, but it's not meant to just be like this energy where you're, you're a contrarian for the sake of it or you're just an asshole.    

33:42  You're here to use that as fuel, fuel to burn away the illusion of limitation. Ok. And the wild one, the sacred rebel, how do they break these systems well, they shatter consensus reality simply by how they're showing up. The messages that they have usually based in in the sacred rebel, those messages are based in love they're not based in hatred. Ok. And through that, through that lens of love, proving that rules only apply to those who agree with them. And you might find an find an interesting paradox if you have this one, if you recognize with this particular archetype that you like rules, you like structure, and then you want to break them, then you want to move outside of them i definitely have that in me i definitely have this archetype strong in me i always have since I was inside was a little kid as far back as I can remember.    

34:35  I like, I like structure and I do like rules because I like justice. But then I want to break the rules, then I want to, then I want to go outside and do something that's feral, undomesticated, wild, OK, but all through, you know this greater altruistic drive, altruistic drive of bringing more love to the work that I do and love to the planet.    

35:00  When you recognize yourself as having the sacred rebel archetype, you publicly thrive outside of conventional structures and maybe have a way of speaking out again with love and justice at the heart of the speaking out, exposing certain structures that are unnecessary, that are unjust, that are, you know, serving the few rather than the many you might have that strong sense of justice, which is a higher form, a higher elevation of a unity consciousness that really strives for harmony. Ok, you have that within you the sacred rebel has that within. So when you think of the artist formerly known as Prince, and I do mean that in a couple ways, because he's no longer with us and he also did something to defy the entire music industry at the time by changing his name to a symbol and reclaiming ownership of his art.    

35:59  And he broke a lot of corporate control that was happening because the corporate control of the music companies, the music industry having rights over artist music was unacceptable, especially to Prince. And so he he used his artistry, he used his imagination, he used that drive for justice to rise above the conditioning of that system and break the paradigm of that system. So if you want to embody the archetype of the sacred rebel in the wild one a little bit more, identify where you're still asking for permission to be who you already are.    

36:36  When I say it out loud, you can see how silly that is, right? Another way is to, you know, dare yourself to let people be uncomfortable with your liberation. That's a big one because it exposes their own shackles. You're going to make other people uncomfortable when you, you know, speak your truth, especially from a place of great love and justice because it's a mirror for other people, maybe showing them where they're not doing that and maybe where they 'd like to.    

37:07  So yeah, you're going to have people be resentful of you i'm just going to be honest you're going to have people be jealous of you. You're going to have haters. So what? So what you have to ask, you know, at the cost of what am I willing to kowtow or people, please and please? Am I really the visionary and conscious creator that I say I am? You know, where does the rubber meet the road? Am I showing up, you know, out there in in the world of hysical form, in 3D reality, in the same way I think of myself in my head? Do those things have coherence do they match U and so where do I need to make those match a little bit more? O I'm going to end it here but I hope that this has brought some incredible insight and some value for you.    

37:52  Again, best way to reach out to me kathrynmussell.com if you want, email me contact@kathrynmussell.com. You can find me on sub stack, YouTube, Facebook. I'm really not on Instagram very much. You can find me in visionary school on the school platform. And I really wanted to bring this to you here today because we are at such a beautiful pivot in this timeline of humanity where.    

38:20  You really have 0 limitations you might look at the outside mirror of reality and think, Oh my God, I have more limitations than ever. Those who should not be would like you to see reality that way it's not that way at all. You actually, with the breakdown and the collapse of what we've known, it's our opportunity to build something new. So that's the real call to action for those of us who identify as visionaries and conscious creators.    

 38:46  And I hope that you will use some of these tools that I gave you here today to do just just that and I want to thank you guys for watching. I wish you nothing but blessings and light and love and many blessings on your incredible vision. Bye for now.