Champagne for Breakfast 1980

Hello, friends.  Welcome to Lila Dean reviews The Golden Age of Porn.  I'm your host, Lila Dean and I'm joined as always by my ever suave co host and viewing partner, James Martin James. 

 How are you tonight?  I'm very good, Leila, how are you?  I'm doing very well. 

 Thank you.  Now, you may be asking yourself, what is the golden age of porn?  Lila? 

 Well, Friends, it's a period from the late sixties to the early eighties when adult films were shot on film shown on the big screen and enjoyed mainstream success.  And tonight we're gonna be discussing a little film called Champagne for Breakfast.  It's a frothy little number as its title suggests and like Champagne For Breakfast. 

 I enjoy champagne all day long.  This film is from 1980.  It is directed by Chris Warfield who was the producer of another film that we reviewed Sex World. 

 So once again, we see some familiar faces popping back up the same faces.  Yes, we always see the same faces and as you'll find out soon, a couple of these people I think have been in maybe every single film that we've reviewed thus far.  probably every film we will review in the future, we will never review. 

 Exactly.  It's the same cast of actors.  In this case, we have the divine Leslie Bovi Bo. 

 We're not really sure how to pronounce her last name.  Well, she spelled it a couple of ways and so any variation of that I think is good, right?  And she spelled Leslie with two L's, which was also kind of distinctive. 

 Let's call her Bovie just for fun.  And joining Leslie is our ever present leading man, John Leslie, the ubiquitous.  John Leslie, you might say he's, he's everywhere in the golden age of porn and he's the leading man in tonight's film, right? 

 So set the scene, here we go.  It's set in San Francisco.  So kind of a different setting than the other films we've seen. 

 And it's kind of nice to get a lot of those location shots which are also a hallmark of the Golden age of porn set in San Francisco.  Leslie Bovie is a successful advertising business woman executive.  and the film starts out with her receiving a big promotion. 

 Yeah, starts off in the boardroom right where she is, I guess, a marketing executive and they've just had a successful campaign of some kind, right?  And so she gets a big promotion to be a vice president of this company which is Cosmetics, I think some sort of cosmetics company.  Well, these details are very important to the enjoyment and her name is Champagne, which everyone just seems to think is perfectly normal, right? 

 So Champagne receives this big promotion.  This is one of the interesting things about this film.  So it was shot in 1980 I guess this is coming, you know, on the tail end of the seventies, the women's liberation movement. 

 So we have in this opening scene, two different women executives of high powered women in a man's world.  So kind of interesting and unique perspective.  So she gets this promotion to vice president and then immediately the other female executive says to her, well, now that you have this power, you can do a lot of great things with it and by a lot of great things, I mean, sexually harass people, right? 

 You know, I think we mentioned this in a previous episode is actually the movies from this golden age of porn.  It's funny because they try to be on the one hand, they, they seem to try to be what one might call in current terms.  Woke. 

 You know, they, they kind of seem to be on the cutting edge of, of progressive models and social norms, but they kind of just miss the mark a little bit, don't they?  Right?  Because basically what she says is look now that you're a high powered executive like me, you can do this and what she does is basically force a vendor, to have sex with her and return for business. 

 so I think you can't really go too, too far beyond surface level with this because I think what they were trying to say is, look, women can be powerful too, but not, not necessarily in the best ways.  They make an effort.  They do. 

 And I mean, to be honest, he was only somewhat reluctant.  Wasn't right.  So, and they seem to have some sort of relationship. 

 It wasn't just like a one off scene.  It see the first time, right?  Ok. 

 So we start off with that sex scene that doesn't involve Leslie at all.  In fact, she gets a little bit turned off by it and goes back to her office.  and then we kind of launch into the main thread of the story, right? 

 and the main thread of the story is, a reluctant hero, John Leslie is shortly out of the navy and a boxing champ, a naval boxing champ.  I didn't know there were such things, but he was is looking for a job as a guy does.  Once he gets out of the service, he's looking for a job. 

 The indication is that he has some sort of money somewhere.  He thinks he does, it's tied it up in some sort of unknown investments.  The details are not important, just know that he's looking for a job, but he, he may have money squirreled. 

 Away somewhere that he can't access.  And then we launch into the, the actual scenes and the first scene is of him trying to get a job in a bar and he ends up being seduced by the, the manager of the bar who for some unknown reason comes out to the job interview wearing a satin robe as you do.  Well, the bar was a little bit more than just a bar, wasn't it? 

 Because there was, there was a stage area and a woman starts dancing and taking off her clothes while he's having this interview.  Right.  Let's be honest, John Leslie, part of his character in this movie. 

 And I think, you know, we're going to mention a couple of times, you know, his acting chops were, were stretched a little bit in this mirror.  He showed, he did demonstrate some, some that the man can act and he's kind of embarrassed by this.  I mean, he's, he's like, what's going on over here, you know, she's just going to take her clothes off. 

 He's, he's got like a certain innocence to him, doesn't he?  Right.  He's got an everyman quality which is not always apparent in the other roles we've seen him in where he tends to be more of a macho guy and you know, a lot about town, but in this one, he's, he's, he's acting very much like just an ordinary Joe. 

 And you're right, he is a very good actor.  So I'll definitely give him props for that and we know that because he's kind of different in different movies that we see him in.  So the bar owner says, hey, this interview is going quite well. 

 I'd like to, you know, take it upstairs to the bedroom as you do.  Yeah.  And you know, he's perfectly happy to do that and up they go, it all seems to be going well in sexy time land until the stripper who had been stripping downstairs comes up and tries to join them. 

 And that's just a bridge too far.  I mean, he will not partake in a threesome.  Well, at first he does a little bit and then, yeah, he's like, what's going on here? 

 Yeah, he's like, this is not what I signed up for.  So off, he marches back to the employment agency and who should be the owner of the employment agency.  But our good friend Kay Parker, you may remember that when we reviewed Sex World, we talked about Kay Parker. 

 She's another one of these very prolific actresses from the golden age of porn.  She's slightly older.  She got into it a little older, I think before the term existed. 

 She was the original mil.  Right.  So she gives that sort of mature vibe, you know, kind of similar to Georgina Spelman, my favorite. 

 but anyway, she's the owner of this employment agency that John Leslie comes back to looking for a job.  Because the bar job didn't pan out.  and of course, and by the way, this theme of the, the leading man just trying to get a job, it's kind of similar to the last movie we watched where it was now to work. 

 Actor.  That's true.  I didn't even think about that. 

 Yeah.  what's that about?  I don't know, interesting social commentary. 

 So he comes back to the employment office looking for a job, but she, she's interested in only one thing you guessed it.  Sex.  She wants to get into his pants and boy does she. 

 It's kind of interesting.  This is a little cameo for Kay Parker.  It's not a big role. 

 It's just this one scene where she and John Leslie have sex, they get down to it.  But it's one of those brush everything off the desk, clear the table.  Yes. 

 Just throw all the papers aside and get on that right now.  Right.  She's gagging for it, you know, apparently everyone in porn is always gagging for it. 

 So they get it on and then afterwards, you know, back to business, he's looking for a job.  She's been trying to fill a position but has been unsuccessful and he says, well, what about that job?  I want that job. 

 And what is that job?  It's to be chauffeur to the lovely champagne, the aforementioned champagne.  after her promotion, she's been given a two week vacation. 

 So she needs someone to drive her around town.  Yeah, but it's not just to drive her around town.  There's so in that opening scene, when she observed her colleague, actually, I think the, the woman was the owner of the or co owner of the company, take advantage of the, the, the vendor. 

 She had kind of an awakening where she realized that she hadn't really had much experience.  So when she was offered this two week vacation, she said, well, I'm going to spend that time, you know, getting to know myself a little better explore her sexual side.  Yeah. 

 And of course she needed a chauffeur to drive around to do that.  She needed a chauffeur in a Rolls Royce.  The budget for this, I mean, they, they must have spent quite a lot of money on, on, on the, the Rolls Royce car unless they had one lying around, which I doubt they did. 

 I just wanted to also say that she needed a chauffeur stroke masseuse.  You needed to be able to give her massages as well.  But there's some sort of implication that a lot of guys have been turned down for this role because they haven't been suitable. 

 So he decides to try a unique approach when he goes to see her about the job.  And what is that approach, James?  Well, he decides that he's going to pretend to be gay so that she won't feel threatened by him. 

 Right.  So that she won't think that he's coming on to her.  Right. 

 So he, he immediately launches into this whole alter ego of this gay man.  OK.  So, the way he, he acts this way, I actually thought it was because he could have gone too much and he could have gone too far and he could have, he could like, I think it was on the right side of appropriateness. 

 I felt like, you know, as soon as you say he played a get, you know, acted like he was gay that there's some kind of, that's a little offensive just right there.  Right.  But his camp I feel wasn't over the top. 

 You know what I mean?  I think it was a, it was a good level of camp for the time.  Yeah. 

 I think it was very much the typical view of a gay man in 19 eighties America.  But it wasn't too much.  It wasn't like, it was like, it wasn't too much because he's not an over actor generally. 

 Well, no, but I think he had just the right amount of camp.  Like, I'm not gay but I feel like if I was gay I wouldn't have been offended by it.  You know what I mean? 

 Right.  Well, basically his way of playing a gay man is to lisp and be a little effeminate.  But this is what I mean. 

 It wasn't like an over the top lisp.  It wasn't, you're really fixated.  On saying it wasn't over. 

 I'm defending him, I'm defending him.  I'm not saying anything bad.  I'm giving a factual description, but I feel like I read somewhere that it was like a little offensive in today's stand. 

 I'm not going to be the one to judge, judge whether it was offensive or not.  All I can say is it was pretty much what you would have expected of a stereotypical portrayal of a gay man in 1980 by a straight porn actor.  This way, there was much worse in English soap operas and, and, and comedies when I was growing up. 

 Well, I can't speak to that.  I, I've not seen those but anyway, let's not get hung up on that.  Ok? 

 He acts like he's gay.  She buys it, she gives him the job and off, they go right.  You know, he behind the wheel of the Rolls Royce. 

 So basically he's, his job is to give her a nice massage and have a bit of chit chat with her and then drive her to a trist, right.  Drive her from sex appointment to sex appointment.  Also, I should say in addition to being chauffer and masseuse, he's also something of a bodyguard. 

 That's true.  Yeah, and he sets her up with a like AAA microphone and a transmitter so he can hear what's going on.  Should he need to like help? 

 Should he need to step in and rescue her?  So, so, yeah, so he's playing a gay man who's also a bodyguard and a boxing champion.  Ex boxing champion. 

 Ok.  So often they go to her first appointment, which is, with a guy in his apartment.  This one I felt was just kind of run of the mill. 

 the interesting thing is that he wears some sort of very elaborate robe and he gives her something to change into too, which she then immediately comes out of.  Yeah, I liked his robe.  It was, he was like wearing the silk robe. 

 He was kind of like he reminded me of that Christopher Walken character man.  Yeah, he was like a ladies man.  Yeah, played by Blair Harris who's also in a lot of these films, right? 

 So that's a, she gets together with him in her, in his apartment.  I feel that scene was a bit of just a bit of an appetizer.  That's what I'm saying. 

 It was very run of the mill.  There was nothing that stood out about it to me.  Like other than other than the, if you asked me what happened in that scene, I'm not sure I would even be able to, to tell you, except that obviously they had sex. 

 And then she ends up going to a bar, right?  This is another piece, interesting piece of social commentary that I thought was she goes to a bar to pick up a guy because she's, you know, experimenting and sewing her wild oats.  She goes up to the bar and she comes on to a man who's an older gentleman, a mature gentleman. 

 I mean, in his, like sixties or something.  Right.  Not, not very old but older than her. 

 Well, no, I was going to say very old.  I mean, he's not like middle aged.  He's right. 

 Like, I was kind of surprised that she went for him honestly, but she's trying all different things.  So she, she comes on to him and this was what I thought was interesting.  She tries to, you know, pick him up essentially, he's not having any of it. 

 And I don't know if you know what Leslie Bovie looks like, but she's, she's very attractive brunette.  one of one of James's favorites.  She's stunner, you know, and she's obviously wanting him but guess what folks, he turns, he turns her down. 

 Unbelievable.  And the reason he turns her down and this is where the social commentary comes in is that he says he likes to be in control, he likes to make the moves, he likes to buy his own drinks.  So he doesn't really appreciate the fact that she's coming on to him. 

 Crazy, right?  It's his loss is what happens next, his loss because then she goes to powder her nose in the lady's room of this restaurant or bar and someone comes on to her and Candida is in the, it happens to be in the restroom.  So another woman comes on to her in the restroom and at first she's kind of put out, I guess, or offended. 

 Yeah.  At first she was kind of like, and then she said, all right, wait a minute, let me think about this.  I'll give this a go. 

 So they go back to, I guess her apartment and they start to have a go at it but then it doesn't really pan out fizzles.  She's not really that into it.  Fair enough. 

 So I'm not for everyone, but it was a bit odd in the, you know, for a porn movie that they wouldn't have had a good girl.  I mean, they, they did a little bit, didn't they?  Well, they started but then she didn't seem to be interested. 

 She couldn't get into it.  I guess she's aggressively heterosexual.  But I thought that was weird too because it was like, why wouldn't you just have a sex scene between the two of them? 

 well, because this movie is, you know, trying to keep it real.  Yeah.  Ok. 

 So, so they tried to have a lesbian sex scene and it was really more of just like a, I need to go back and watch that scene because I can't quite remember how it fizzles.  But I remember it wasn't, yeah, it wasn't completely, it was kind of odd.  Anyway. 

 So, anyway, don't worry.  There's plenty more.  One of my favorite scenes. 

 It's so funny.  So they're just driving around and in the roles, the aforementioned roles and they pull into a gas station because they need something looked at on the car or he needs to fill up the car with gas or something, automotive at any rate.  so John Leslie or his name is Harry in the film, we should say Harry goes off to take care of the car business. 

 and then champagne gets out for a little stroll about the neighborhood.  Yeah, she gets out and takes off and this is where it gets kind of loopy because she goes, she's, I just wanna say she's wearing like high heeled boots.  Ok. 

 And she strolls on to a construction site in her high heeled boots and dressed up, totally dressed up.  she walks on to this basically building site where this construction worker, she passes this strange lady sitting, old lady sitting in a chair.  I don't know. 

 Well, it's because, you know, in the movies where there's like a pane of glass and it's just there so that someone can run into it later.  It's the same way the old woman's there specifically for a later reason.  Yeah. 

 So she goes up to this beefy looking construction guy.  Well, beefy is being quite kind.  I mean, he was a bit chubby, wasn't he? 

 That's what I mean by beefy.  Beefy is not chubby.  Beefy means mus. 

 Oh, ok.  Chunky then.  Or chubby. 

 Chubby, it was soft flesh.  Ok.  Anyway, she goes up to this construction worker and basically played by Michael Morrison who also is in a lot of these movies and was like, basically, like, hey, how about it? 

 That's essentially it.  She walks up to him, she makes eye contact like the old man in the bar.  Michael Morrison is not one to look a gift horse in the mouth. 

 Right.  Well, he's actually doing manual labor when she approaches him.  So, I mean, and she's obviously we, we've already said very sexy and attractive and he's like, I don't know, hitting a rock with a pickax or something. 

 So, I mean, who wouldn't want to break from that even if she hadn't been tremendously attractive.  So they go off to a house somewhere.  I feel like it was maybe a house he was working on. 

 Was it a house he was working on or, or his, I don't know, a house, a house.  So he wanders off from his job, somehow ends up in this house where they begin to engage in the most sort of, complicated gymnastics.  Ok. 

 So the, the bit in this scene that it was amusing is at one point he lifts her up and turns her upside down upside down.  So he's holding, so he's holding her, he's standing, he's holding her upside down and then he basically gets a bottle of beer and he pours the beer into her nether regions and then has a good sip of the beer, he's drinking the beer as he's pouring it through her.  So she's like a conduit for the beer going from the bottle through her into his mouth. 

 And then while holding her upside down, this man has skills and then the, the thing that I know, it almost seemed like it was a surprise to her because she was, she was giggling away like this was, this wasn't part of the script and they both totally go with it.  I there was something that was very kind of spur of the moment about it, which I thought was brilliant.  Yeah, it was very funny. 

 But then it took a little bit of a turn a bit.  Ok.  Well, was he rapey or was he just being a little too aggressive? 

 She said, well, she said, oh, he was hurting her at one point.  She said stop and he wouldn't stop.  Yeah, you're right. 

 That is rapey.  who was there to come to the rescue.  So meanwhile, while this is happening, there's another scene going on simultaneously. 

 It cuts to our hero Harry who's come out of the gas station.  oh, where's champagne?  Champagne? 

 Got to go look for her.  She could be in trouble.  So you literally. 

 So while this is going on with the builder, you just get all these scenes of him like running through the streets of San Francisco trying to find her, right?  But even before that, do you remember what happened with him in the car wash.  No, that was, it wasn't at the same place. 

 That was, that was a different gas station.  Forget I said anything.  Yeah. 

 So, anyway, so he's running through the streets of San Francisco.  Luckily he comes across an old, sitting in a chair and she, like, holds out a witchy bony finger and just points silently up the hill.  So he runs up there but he doesn't go straight up the hill. 

 He then like goes around the block a few times anyway.  He's, he's doing a lot of running.  He hears her calling for help. 

 Basically, he gets close to the house, he hears a house goes in there and puts his navy boxing skills to work.  Yeah.  So he saves her, her, her very impressive, a bit of work there. 

 And off they go again next escapade to a bunch of boys, right?  So this is again with the social commentary, it's kind of turn the table.  Well, it's kind of turn the tables a little, right? 

 Because usually you're seeing men go to a brothel.  This is a woman going to brothel.  So instead of a man, you know, being serviced by three women, it's her being serviced by three men. 

 She's the one in control.  and she does that whole sort of thing that you always see in movies where they kind of select who they want to take upstairs.  And she does that, she chooses three different guys and they go upstairs and hi Jinks and Sue Steamy session. 

 Three guys she keeps, I mean, this is also kudos to her to keep it going with three different guys.  at the same time.  So yes, all sorts of octopus hands going on there. 

 This was actually one of my favorite scenes in the movie.  I think if you're talking about in terms of sexiness, this was one of the sexiest of the movie.  And it, and it also seemed like they were, they were pleasing her, she was pleasing them. 

 There was a lot of mutual pleasure going on.  There was everyone was having a good time, right?  So that was good. 

 And then we get to the scene I was talking about.  Yeah, it was ok.  So then she, she's doing this. 

 He decides, well, I might as well take the car, the walls to get a wash.  It's been a while.  So even though he's driving a Rolls Royce, he wants to get this bargain car wash that he saw advertised in the paper, for like 99 cents or something. 

 It was a 90 cents and this is part of the plot.  It was 99 cents car wash.  So he goes there and there's this attractive young woman running the car wash. 

 Also another very prolific porn actress, running the car wash and she immediately she gives them the eye, their eyes meet, they know it's gonna be more than just a car wash and she says to him, all right.  So she's gonna get in the car with him.  But guess what, this car wash is only three minutes long. 

 So, whatever they're gonna do, they have to get it done in three minutes and get it done quick.  Yeah.  So it's the quickies, quickie, quickest quickie, that you've ever seen. 

 And they come out and then little funny note at the end, she wants to charge him an extra 20 bucks for the quickie and he refuses.  He said it was 99 cents.  It was advertised as 99 cents. 

 so she got annoyed as you would.  Well, she was like, you think I did all that for 99 cents and he was like, well, that's what it said in the ad.  So that was a funny little interlude there. 

 I think the law is on his side.  It was advertised as a 99 cent car wash.  Well, the car wash was 99 cents and also they didn't negotiate price up front. 

 So, you know, buyer beware or no seller beware, I guess.  So that was good.  So that was the car wash scene. 

 A little fun thing while she was busy with the three guys.  and then there's kind of a very random scene a of Leslie Bovie picking up a younger guy.  Well, they pick each other up. 

 I guess.  Well, I think before that wasn't there the bit where she says I've got a special treat for you, Harry.  And, because thank you for rescuing me the other day and you've been so, so great. 

 I want you to come back to this house with me and I've got a treat for you.  Right.  And she's dressed in, you know, a robe and again, a robe. 

 So he thinks he's gonna get some jollies from her.  He gets excited about that.  So she takes him upstairs in her house and it looks like they're about to get it on surprise. 

 She's got one of the guys from the brothel, one of the rent boys as a treat, special treat for him.  of course he doesn't want the rent boy from the brothel because he's actually straight, right.  So he gets mad and punches the guy, which is sad because the guy did nothing wrong. 

 Like a poor guy.  I know he didn't do anything wrong.  He got a punch in the face for that. 

 So that didn't work out.  And then they have a little drive and he explains why, you know, he overreacted and he apologizes.  But I think now she's starting to get an champagne is starting to have some, you know, doubts about his gayness that something's going. 

 Right.  So then anyway, then she does have this tris with a young guy in a hotel room, right?  I mean, like he kind of looks like a young Matthew Broderick almost played by David Morris. 

 Right?  And it's what was funny about this scene is that she goes, I like the little details they throw into these movies which are so pointless, but they obviously thought, well, we, yeah, we're gonna, let's, let's put this in this scene, which is that they're in a motel, a cheap motel, which you get the, the sense that the rooms are rented by the hour.  And she says, well, I just want to go and, you know, freshen up in the bathroom before we get to it. 

 So this young guy, he's lying in the bed and he's like looking at his watch, he's waiting and he goes, are you almost ready?  So almost, I'm just finishing up in here.  He goes to the TV. 

 He turns it.  He's like, well, we've only got the place for two hours.  You better hurry up and there was no need for that little interview because then she comes in and they have their little scene together. 

 But I just like the fact they threw that you just do that like her getting ready and him getting impatient, I think it was like, you know, delayed gratification like he has to wait for it and it's gonna be worth it when she finally comes out and it was worth it.  He gets so sweaty and hot from their exertions.  He's basically, he's literally dripping in sweat. 

 I mean, I know it's hot with the lights and everything, but still he was just dripping with sweat.  in that scene, which was kind of funny and that was just, that seemed to just be kind of a random scene that they threw in there.  but anyway, back to the little side story with his whole money situation, this was hilarious someone, his brother-in-law, someone like that. 

 Well, first of all, there was a scene where he goes to see his accountant or someone or he goes to see someone says, hey, I want to get that money.  I need that money.  Yeah. 

 And the guy says, well, you can't get the money.  And he said, what do you mean?  He said, well, you signed that piece of paper handing all the, you know, the, the legal ownership over to your brother-in-law. 

 It's like I did.  And so he's obviously been taken advantage of.  So then fast forward he has this confrontation with the brother in law, it's on the street and he's talking to him and the brother in law is a bit of a dick and says you're never going to see that money. 

 Harry, you're never gonna see it.  I should just say that that brother-in-law has played in a non sexual role by Paul Thomas who was also in the ecstasy girls, right?  I, I feel like he was just hanging around ready to film another movie that they were about to do and they're like Hey, would you just play this part? 

 So, anyway, so he, he tells Harry you're never going to see that money.  Harry, you never going to see that money?  And he steps back and then gets hit by a truck and Harry, like, goes, oh, he looks at him and then he's like, oh, and then I was like, ok, so, because he knows he's gonna get his money. 

 So the bottom line is, he's now in the money, right?  and then the final sex scene of the whole movie is between our two leads, right where Champagne shows up at his room or apartment and she's dressed in a sailor suit because of course he was in the navy and she's like, I'm a sailor boy but really she's not a boy.  and they go at it finally, we've been waiting for this, the entire movie and it finally happens at the end. 

 so all pretense has dropped that he's gay.  Clearly, he's not.  and he doesn't need the job anymore because he's got all this money. 

 and in the tradition of the classic rom com that couple ends up together.  Harry and Sally.  No, Harry and Champagne. 

 Harry and Champagne.  When Harry met Champagne.  Yeah, exactly. 

 So, it is kind of like a ROM com.  It's, it's got a lot of comedy to it.  I thought it was, yeah, it was funny and it was intentionally hilarious as well. 

 It was funny.  And it was very much like a rom com, there were misunderstandings, he was pretending to be something he wasn't.  And at the end they get together. 

 And it's actually like a love story.  Most porn films aren't like that.  They aren't in love stories, you know, where two characters are gonna be together at the end forever and ever live happily ever after, which is essentially what this movie is. 

 So yeah, they end up together at the end and it was a very fun ending.  I thought very happy, happy, happy, happy.  Everyone likes a happy ending. 

 Yeah, indeed.  So very good.  So then you said your favorite scene was the, the kind of gang bang with three men, gang bang. 

 That, that sounds violent.  I like to call it a MNA.  OK. 

 That was probably my favorite scene.  What was yours as much as I like Leslie Bovie for some reason, I quite like the car wash, the car wash scene was so good.  You know, I, I just thought it was something really good and quick and hot about that whole scene. 

 But Leslie Bovie is delicious and gorgeous throughout the movie.  So she is, I'm not sure how I feel about her acting.  What do you think? 

 I mean, it's not the best, it's just kind of mediocre.  I don't notice her acting to be honest.  Yeah, I mean, that's not what we came for is it? 

 But tell us a bit more about Leslie, Leslie Bovee.  Kind of an interesting part.  Well, a lot of these people are very interesting once you look into their backgrounds, she had a kind of a sad childhood which you were telling me about. 

 she worked as a flight attendant for tw a for a period of time.  She eventually became an erotic dancer, a go go dancer and a stripper, and then went into hardcore porn films in the seventies.  And she, her career was pretty prolific. 

 She had over 80 movies in a short space of time and then she retired in the early eighties.  And as far as I know is still alive, but we don't really know what became of her after that.  She was a very liberated woman sexually. 

 She had, she didn't have hang ups about sex and she felt like society shouldn't have hang ups about sex.  Yeah.  And I think that comes through in the movies, I'll tell you why you say that you don't think she's a very good actress or you're not sure if she's a good actress or not. 

 And, and I think that maybe with her in particular, adds to the, her appeal because when she's in her sex scenes, I don't think she is acting.  I think she's genuinely enjoying them.  She seems to be like really into everything and she'll laugh and giggle at stuff or she'll be, you know, she'll, she'll, it's like she's reacting in the moment. 

 I think that's maybe one of her charms.  Right.  Well, she was, you know, I listened to an interview with her and she's clearly, you know, a very intelligent person and she had very strong views about sex and, about how it should be depicted in the movies which weren't always fulfilled in porn because as she said, you know, the directors often view the audience as like a 13 year old boy. 

 So that's kind of what they're catering to.  But she herself wanted society to be more open to be freer.  not to, not to be so repressed sexually. 

 And she thought at the time that that's the way it was going because during the golden age of porn, it was much more mainstream and she thought it was going to become even more so.  well, history shows that that's not what happened.  but she was doing her part to, to see that it did happen, you know, and then she had a, an incident that really contributed to her ideas, which was she got arrested. 

 And what did she get arrested for?  Hall and indecent dancing on while filming a movie or I think she was doing publicity for sex world.  Yeah. 

 So she got arrested and in interviews, she says that she, she wanted to fight the case and indeed she did and she was found not guilty and she said, had she been found guilty.  She would have had a criminal record and be labeled as a sex offender as a pervert basically for simply just dancing and expressing her physicality and being free.  And so she, that really shook her and she, she pushed back against that. 

 So she was, yeah, she was very liberated and she was very articulate and how she spoke about these things and she came across as being quite a smart person.  Yeah, definitely.  I mean, she saw the patriarchy as being very hypocritical, which it was and is continues to be. 

 and she, so she was, yeah, she was trying to fight back against that.  Was she the one that always got the good deal or was it another actress?  It may have been her that she was a shrewd business. 

 You mentioned she always got like, you know, she managed to get a good deal for herself when it came to negotiating.  Yeah, she absolutely should.  What I thought was interesting was that she said she thought a lot of porn storylines were far fetched and scenes were far fetched. 

 And she was asked what kind of things she would like to see, you know, as far as storyline goes.  And she said she would like to see a boy meets girl?  They fall in love, they have sex and that essentially is what happened in this movie, right? 

 So this was her perfect movie.  Yeah.  Well, maybe she was perfect. 

 She was perfect in this movie.  Well, good.  So, what rating are you going to give this? 

 First of all?  Let's give it the, what do we, we normally give two ratings?  So we want for the movie and then one for the. 

 Ok.  So out of 10 for the, the movie itself, story setting.  Yeah, if I'm thinking about it as I'm gonna think about it as a rom com, like in the, that sort of genre. 

 I'm gonna give it an eight.  Yeah.  it would, Hustler reviewed it and said it will make you feel lighthearted and lusty. 

 I think that's pretty spot on.  Honestly, I'm gonna give it a 10 out of 10 for artistic value.  I mean, what, what, like I feel like even if it didn't have the in, it would still be kind of a fun movie to watch. 

 Yeah.  And they did do a soft core version.  Did, yeah, they did that with a lot of these movies. 

 They cut out the more explicit scenes and made it more soft core porn.  So 10 out of 10 for me for the movie and then the, the scenes and the sex scenes, the sexiness of it.  Yeah. 

 I'm gonna give that a nine, I think.  Oh, yeah, that's high.  Yeah. 

 Except for the, that sort of fizzled lesbian scene, which I thought was kind of weird.  I'll give it a night.  I mean, this is a good movie. 

 It's a good movie.  You can watch it, you know, as a couple.  It was a good romp, a frothy a as you might say. 

 All right.  Well, thanks so much for listening.  Until next time. 

 Happy viewing.