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The 'I Don't Know' Escape Route (Part 1)
Oct 13, 2025, Season 2, Episode 200
Jill & Kim
Episode Summary

Embracing "I Don't Know" – Moving Beyond Mental Spiral

Hosts: Kim & Jill
Episode Theme: Navigating Overthinking, Uncertainty, and Emotional Energy


Episode Summary

Kim and Jill share their experiences from a heady weekend filled with overthinking, miscommunication, and the urge to create stories around uncertainty. They discuss how quickly our minds can spiral into frustration or anxiety when faced with ambiguous situations—especially in relationships or communication.

The key takeaway? Learning to embrace “I don’t know” as a calming truth rather than letting fear drive us toward mental rabbit holes.


Key Insights

  • Mental Spirals Happen Fast

    • Both hosts noticed how easily they could slip into overanalyzing simple interactions (like text messages) and creating dramatic narratives.
    • Recognizing this pattern is crucial for stopping it before it affects emotional well-being or relationships.
  • The Power of Saying "I Don't Know"

    • Admitting uncertainty helps prevent story-spinning and calms survival instincts that crave control.
    • Practicing acceptance of not knowing brings presence—and less drama—to life’s ups and downs.
  • Physical Movement Is Medicine

    • When stuck in your head, moving your body (walking, cleaning, working out) shifts energy fast.
    • Physical activity dissipates nervous tension sparked by mental stories; awareness makes this process even more effective.
  • Creative Outlets & Conscious Conversation

    • Creativity offers another path for shifting energy constructively.
    • Talking things through can help—but only if the listener holds space without fueling your narrative. Otherwise, it prolongs negativity!

Practical Tips

  1. Catch Yourself Story-Spinning: Notice when you’re making assumptions about others’ words/actions.
  2. Pause & Say “I Don’t Know”: Let yourself sit in uncertainty—it’s safer than inventing answers!
  3. Move Your Body: Walk, clean, exercise—use movement as an emotional reset button.
  4. Choose Conversations Wisely: Talk only with people who won’t amplify your drama; seek those who simply listen without judgment or agreement.
  5. Practice Awareness: The more conscious you are of these patterns, the faster you shift out of them.

Final Thoughts

Life isn’t always exciting drama—it’s often just ordinary ups-and-downs! When things get mentally intense:

Hand yourself a dose of “I don’t know,” move some energy around physically or creatively, And remember: It’s okay not to have all the answers right now.

Thank you for tuning in! Until next time—keep moving forward…even when you don't know where it's going yet.

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Embracing "I Don't Know" – Moving Beyond Mental Spiral

Hosts: Kim & Jill
Episode Theme: Navigating Overthinking, Uncertainty, and Emotional Energy


Episode Summary

Kim and Jill share their experiences from a heady weekend filled with overthinking, miscommunication, and the urge to create stories around uncertainty. They discuss how quickly our minds can spiral into frustration or anxiety when faced with ambiguous situations—especially in relationships or communication.

The key takeaway? Learning to embrace “I don’t know” as a calming truth rather than letting fear drive us toward mental rabbit holes.


Key Insights

  • Mental Spirals Happen Fast

    • Both hosts noticed how easily they could slip into overanalyzing simple interactions (like text messages) and creating dramatic narratives.
    • Recognizing this pattern is crucial for stopping it before it affects emotional well-being or relationships.
  • The Power of Saying "I Don't Know"

    • Admitting uncertainty helps prevent story-spinning and calms survival instincts that crave control.
    • Practicing acceptance of not knowing brings presence—and less drama—to life’s ups and downs.
  • Physical Movement Is Medicine

    • When stuck in your head, moving your body (walking, cleaning, working out) shifts energy fast.
    • Physical activity dissipates nervous tension sparked by mental stories; awareness makes this process even more effective.
  • Creative Outlets & Conscious Conversation

    • Creativity offers another path for shifting energy constructively.
    • Talking things through can help—but only if the listener holds space without fueling your narrative. Otherwise, it prolongs negativity!

Practical Tips

  1. Catch Yourself Story-Spinning: Notice when you’re making assumptions about others’ words/actions.
  2. Pause & Say “I Don’t Know”: Let yourself sit in uncertainty—it’s safer than inventing answers!
  3. Move Your Body: Walk, clean, exercise—use movement as an emotional reset button.
  4. Choose Conversations Wisely: Talk only with people who won’t amplify your drama; seek those who simply listen without judgment or agreement.
  5. Practice Awareness: The more conscious you are of these patterns, the faster you shift out of them.

Final Thoughts

Life isn’t always exciting drama—it’s often just ordinary ups-and-downs! When things get mentally intense:

Hand yourself a dose of “I don’t know,” move some energy around physically or creatively, And remember: It’s okay not to have all the answers right now.

Thank you for tuning in! Until next time—keep moving forward…even when you don't know where it's going yet.

Ever find yourself spiraling into overthinking after a simple text or missed call? You’re not alone! In this episode, Kim and Jill dive deep into the whirlwind of “heady” weekends—those moments when our minds race to fill in the blanks with stories, assumptions, and drama. They share candid experiences about how quickly thoughts can spin out of control, why it’s okay (and even healing) to say “I don’t know,” and practical ways to break free from mental loops.

Key takeaways:

- Embracing uncertainty: Why accepting “I don’t know” can be grounding and calming  
- The power of movement: How physical activity helps shift emotional energy  
- Conscious conversations: Finding support without fueling negative stories  

Tune in for an honest chat that will help you catch your mind before it runs wild—and remind you that sometimes, not knowing is the most peaceful answer. Listen now!

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Hello, lovely listeners, and good morning, Kim. Good morning, Jill. Good morning, everyone.

Jill and I had very similar experiences over the weekend, which if we're having that, that means a lot of you are also having these experiences. It was a little heady again. Little heady. Oh, my God. A little. It was a heady weekend. It really was. It was quick to want to go into the frustrations in the head, the overthinking in the head, the, well, what does that mean? Did that person say that? What was that attacking me? Like, oh, my gosh, like really fast, how quick it was going, and if we didn't stop it, holy cow, we could have gone down a really, really bad rabbit hole.

We could have gotten very physically ill very quickly. Just headaches could have came on all the things and the anger and the projection could have went out now towards somebody else. You could have potentially even harmed somebody else. By the way. You maybe said something to them even though he didn't mean it.

You're like, where is Kim going with all this? This is okay, so I'm going to back up a little bit. Experience few different ones this weekend came up for me where there was either a lack of communication, not quite for sure it was lack of communication or just lack of a follow through.

Then there was also something that was communicated to me with the way that the words were said in a text message could have portrayed a lot of different ways. And my head started to go very quickly into, well, what does that mean? Well, why is this not happening? And trying to come up with a bigger story than what was there.

There was facts there. There was just facts. And I wanted to create a big story and I had to, like, reel myself in so fast to get myself out of it.

Yeah, the creating the big story, it's like spinning up a big story could have happened. And maybe for some people, it did happen, but if it did, I'm guessing it happened differently in the sense of you, like, saw it occurring where in the past it just would have happened.

And then you could have would have been more like, you know, oh, that person's this, or that person did that, or this time it was like, whoa, look at what I just did.

Yep, it was. And it still kind of is this morning. I don't think it's totally done yet, but there's definitely a lot of what I want to say. There's a big need to say, I don't know.

Our minds are kicking into creating that big story of, hey, it could be this or it could be this, like trying to figure it out. And to me, the thing is to say,
I don't know,
I don't know.

And there's something about that that is calming when you understand and truly use it in like a rebalancing way.

I don't know what's going on here.
This could be.
This was it.
This was it.
This.

You know what the thing is? I don't know.
That stops the stories from spinning and becoming huge because they don't know.

And I think there's a fear in people when they don't know.
They want to have every single ounce of knowledge.
They want to know every single detail.
Because it is a fear,
trauma,
whatever it is.

They want to make sure that they're safe 100% in all aspects of their life.
Mentally,
physically,
emotionally,
spiritually,
physically,
they want to be safe.

And if they don't know what to feel or how to respond or they just don't know why,
it can really stir some negative behaviors.

And people that are,
and I'm going to call it all people that are,
say,
spiritually connected,
who are in tune,
who are typically love and care and affection,
they're just like,
wait,
what?
What just happened?

Like,
you just watched them or even yourself,
like,
you may be very intuitive person,
very aligned,
attuned person,

and all of a sudden you started doing that and you recognized it.
You're like,
whoa.
I just responded to the
I don't know
in a very negative way.
I started projecting that on somebody else because I got scared of the.
I don't know.

Yeah,
it looks.
The image of it looks crazier than the words coming out of my head.
I'm getting,
like images,
frequencies that are coming through on this about that,
about.
The experience we have when we say internally to ourselves,
to our mind.
You know what?
I don't know,

like,
say something happens with Kim.
I'm going to pick on you.
Kim,

you sent me a text message that just,
you know,

like,
hit me wrong.
I just was like,

what the hell?
You know?

And I said,

what is that?
Is she mad at me?
Is she?
This is she,

you know,

and then to,

like,

the thing is just to reel that in and go be able to say to your mind,

like,

the truth is,

I don't know what's going on,

and it's okay to not know.

I'm not more safe by making up and spinning off stories and making conclusions and judgments.

And it's not,

you know,

like this,

like getting that self coaching kind of thing,

that self talk right in your brain,

you know,

because I.

Yeah,

I can feel that,

too.

Or

that moment of,

like,

I don't know what's going on with Kim.

There's this survival kind of instinct,

I think,

that comes up that's like,

I don't know.
I'm gonna die.
I'm gonna die,
I'm gonna die.
I need to know.
I need to know.
I need to understand.
I need to have a.

You know,

and then we.

That's where we start making up the stuff.

But the thing is,

is that the truth is

that we're making it up.

We still don't know.

So if we can really dive into
I want to call it like

a deep love for

the truth of

I don't know.


That doesn't ping on survival stuff.


Right.


It takes a little practice,


though,


to get into.


And I mean,


like,


using it.


Practice,


like saying,


okay,


I don't know.


It's okay.


It's okay


that I don't know


I'm not going


to die,


because I don't


know.


It's


the truth


that I


don't


know what happened with Kim.


And so then maybe,


you


know,


I can say,


too,


in


that,


you


know,


scenario,


I can say


I can either follow up with her when I see her next,


or I could just let it go and see and just,


you


know,


there's options.


And we start


to become,


I say,


like,


more present with what's happening in our life and less spun out by these stories in our mind.


Okay,


Jill.


What is one way if you find your head was going crazy and you're like,


I don't


know what Kim meant.


I don't


know what Kim meant.


And you could sit there and sit there and try and come up with a story.


What is one way or something that you could do


to help get your mind off of it or


to shift that mindset?


For me,


yeah,


for me,


physical movement.


I had


to get up


and move.


And sometimes that's like just going for a walk.


Sometimes it's some sort of,


you


know,


whatever,


like,


workout kind of movement.


Sometimes it's like a physical project that.


A project outdoors,


whatever,


that just requires a lot of,


you


know,


strength,


movement,


body movement,


no thinking.


And it moves all of that energy because I can actually spin.


I don't spin in story as much.


The story definitely does it,but I didn't start to spin more in emotion.


The story sparks emotion,and emotion gets really big in me.And moving physical movement is an outlet for that kind of.I'll call it like nervous energy

to get it

to start moving out

of my body.And then

I Can also find out.It shifts.And it's like,you think about

that situation with Kim

and it's like there's just nothing there.There’s no emotion,no thought.There’s no story.There’s.It’s just what it was.It was a text

that I got

that I didn’t understand.And

the movement helped me.I wasn’t conscious.I wasn’t like,I’m going

to move this,you

know,I’m going

to do this thing

to move this energy.I was just like,you

know what?

Time

to go and move.Exactly.How about you,KIm?

Yep.I actually did

the same thing this weekend.Yeah? Yep.It was.I just got into like,a cleaning mode.My kids laugh at me because in the past.If mom was cleaning,mom was pissed off.So they would know.If I got into a cleaning mood in the house.They stayed out

of the way.That’s funny,because I was trying

to process something,and that was my way

of moving the energy.Was

to physically,deap clean.And It didn’t go into anger this weekend.It went into like,a.Back then,in hindsight,didn’t realize.That iwas listening

to what my body Was asking To help support It.Was That physical movement,Cleaning.Back In The Day,I thought It Was.I’m Just Angry So I’m Going To Freaking Clean And Then Deep Down And Let All My Anger And Frustration Out Into That.In Reality,it Was My Intuition Saying Just Move And Move The Energy.It’ll Soften It Up.It’ll Change The Story.Ah,the Emotions Go Away.So Now When I Clean,I Laugh Because I'm Like Am i Cleaning Because I'm Frustrated Or It's Just This Moving Energy And That's All It Is.Yeah.When You Bring An Awareness To It That's What i Hear You Saying.You Brought An Awareness To It.Then It Shifted.And Actually What Shifted Is You Were Able To Even Move That Energy On A Deeper Even Deeper Level Because Your Awareness Brings A Level Of Being Conscious Of It.And So You Were Probably Able To Say This Weekend,Say Move All That Energy In An Hour.Where 10 20 Years Ago Or Whatever It Was,it Might Have Taken You The Weekend Or The Day Or The Afternoon.Yeah.When We Bring Awareness And Consciousness Around It,it Shifts A Whole Lot Faster.So It's Like Moving Into That,i Don't Know Space.And You Feel Yourself Spinning Off,Making Up Stories In Your Head Or Wanting To Control The Situation Or Any Of That Stuff.You Know What Either I'm Going To Move.Could Do Something Creative.Creativity Is A Really Good Way To Move A Lot Of Energy.You Can Talk With Someone.Talking With Someone Helps.You Just Have To Be Aware That You Keep The Talking A Certain Direction So That It Doesn't Go Down Into The Toilet.Yep Exactly.Talking Yes.We Are Easy To Start Projecting That Frustration Back Onto A Person.And Oh Jill You Brought Up A Good Point Here.Ok So Like Who Are You Talking To About The Situation.Are They Able To Just Hold Space And Not Create A Story With You.If They Start Creating The Story And Start Agreeing To Your Frustration.They're Not The Person To Be Having A Conversation With.And i Would Say Talking With Someone Should Probably Be One Of The Last Options That You Have Unless You Have A Big Awareness Around What You Just Said There Kim Was Asking Someone To Just Hold Space Not Be In Agreement Not Spin It Up.I Know Over The Weekend Yesterday In Particular i Really Had Strong Urge To Have Conversation With People About Some Things That Were Happening Over The Weekend.And i Didn't But i Felt That Oh Make This Call.Oh Reach Out To This Person.Oh Do This.And Then i Just Did A Very Brief Moment Of Reflection On It Like What Are You Getting Out Of That Jill And Truly My Underlying Motivation Was i Was Looking For Someone That Could Come Into Agreement With Me In My Story And What Was Going On.And What i Realized Was All That's Going To Do Is Give The Story More Strength And Staying Power And It's Going To Be Around Longer.And i Did Not Want This Thing Around Longer.i Just Wanted It To Move And Shift.And The Way To Do That Was To Just Be With It.And Then i Just Did Other Movement Rather Than Reaching Out To Talk With Someone.Yes.And i'm So Glad i Did Because It Did Actually Start To Shift.And Things Are Heady Today But Not As Heady As They Were Like Yesterday In Particular.Saturday Was Heady As Well Two Days Ago.But Yeah Yeah It's Something Shifting And Happening Big Time With Our Minds And Our Awareness Of What's Going On Inside Of Us.And If That's In Alignment With What's Happening Outside Of Us.Yes.Yeah.Yeah.Oh,i Just Got Like Kind Of Head Dizzy.Not In A Negative Way But Just Like My Head's Starting To Spin.Interesting.i Think Even People Listening To This Or Maybe Spinning A Little Bit Because My Guess Would Be Because When We Hear Something Like This And It's That Heady And It's That Much In The Mind.The Mind Just Automatically Is Reaching For That Safety For That.You Know We Talked Just.What We Talked About.Like It's This It's That It's This It's Like.You Know What We Really Have To Practice.Like,i Just.i Don't Know.And It's Okay That i Don't Know.What i Get Is i'm Rethinking.Re.Listening Back To Our Conversation Here In My Head.Ok And i'm Trying To Figure Out What Happened To Kim What Happened To Jill This Weekend.Like They Want To Know The Story.They Want To Know The Details Of How They Got Hetty.They Want To Know The Drama.And i'm Like Whoa.So We Are Literally Putting Out Their.The,i Don't Know Energy.So No Wonder Why Your Heads Are All Spinning.Wow.It's Ok It's Ok Not Knowing Details.It Is.Just Take Down A Notch.Trust Me Its Not Exciting.No No i'm Not Trying Downplay.Just Telling You.Really Its Not.Its Life.Its Life.Just.Life Is What Its.There Ups Downs.You Know Its Not Up Down Good Bad.Its Sometimes Playful.Other Times Serious.This Weekend Kicked More Seriousness For While.Mind Wanted Figure Out.Yeah Funny Kim.Handing Dose Don't Know Today.Whoa.We Conjured Getting Dished Projected Without Even Knowing.Powerful Stuff.Mm.Ok Means Gotta Move.Gotta Keep Moving.Alright.Yep.Lets.Do.Yes Thank Kim Thank Everyone Listening.Until Next Time

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