Meeting Heroes and Embracing Differences: A Conversation on Perspective and Personal Advantages

MYLES [00:00:00]:

Get that. You see what I mean when you say you look at how clear the data was, right?

Samantha [00:00:04]:

Yeah.

MYLES [00:00:05]:

I'm like, yeah, data is clear because you got a fucking software engineer working on that shit.

Samantha [00:00:11]:

No, I meant, like, the scatter plot that I made. That data, that chart that I made.

MYLES [00:00:17]:

That's what I meant. Where did that come from?

Samantha [00:00:18]:

I made it. I took the timestamps of all of our speeches. Every time we stopped and started talking, I just had it add up the minutes that we were talking. And when it's cumulative time on mic, so if your slope is high, that means you were the one talking. If your slope is flat, that means you weren't talking.

MYLES [00:00:42]:

So that it wasn't accurate. What do you mean? So logic does that, right? If I were to put how we talk into DBS, it would just tell you how bright my voice is or how bright your voice is or how.

Samantha [00:01:00]:

Bright no, not that. It's literally like at 1 minute and 43 seconds, Miles started talking, and at two minutes and 58 seconds, Leo started talking. So that means during that time period, you were on mic.

MYLES [00:01:14]:

Okay.

Samantha [00:01:14]:

You were the one talking. It's not about levels and stuff. It's about just how much of the actual timeline you were taking up. And the data indicated that I was the one doing a lot of talking. And I'm like, oh, shit. So I'm like, I need to kind of keep that in check.

MYLES [00:01:32]:

Well, let's do this. Welcome to the play myself.

Samantha [00:01:35]:

Are we recording?

MYLES [00:01:36]:

Yeah, recording. Welcome to the play myself show. I'm Miles, and to the left of.

Samantha [00:01:41]:

Me I have Samantha, and to the.

MYLES [00:01:44]:

Right of me I have Leo G. And today we're going to get to know one another.

Leo [00:01:53]:

And we haven't figured out who's going.

MYLES [00:01:55]:

To go first, but Sam is our resident expert on control and every other thing that she has to have. So, Sam, who's going first?

Samantha [00:02:05]:

Leo's going first.

Leo [00:02:07]:

All right, fair enough.

MYLES [00:02:08]:

Leo, who are you?

Leo [00:02:11]:

I'd say that people ask me, I say I'm an engineer. I'd say that I'm a romantic, I'm a hiker, and I am a person who goes to improv.

MYLES [00:02:27]:

So, Sam, is it okay if I ask the first question? Go nuts. So I read this book, right? Sure. And it's called character. Yeah. And it was all about being known by your character attributes rather than your resume attributes. Right. So it surprised me that you said you were an engineer first, because to me, that's like more of a resume attribute or a resume builder. Right.

Leo [00:02:57]:

I think that the first instinct that anyone gets that I get to say something is the truest thing. And that's the thing that I should say. I think that there is a considerable amount of things of thought that we do and don't acknowledge towards the first thought, the first word that pops into our heads, like we were talking at improv, we always talk about blurting, and people say, oh, what do you do? Who are you? And I say, oh, first thing that pops my mind was an engineer. Now, that can talk to the amount of time that I've spent in engineering classes or the amount of times that people other people have referred to me as an engineer.

MYLES [00:03:45]:

But in a group of engineers, do you think you would say you were an engineer with that much enthusiasm?

Leo [00:03:54]:

Yeah, that's a good question, because.

Samantha [00:04:01]:

On.

Leo [00:04:01]:

Like, a stage of different improper improvers.

Samantha [00:04:07]:

Improvisers, I think, is the proper word.

MYLES [00:04:09]:

Thank you.

Samantha [00:04:12]:

Ask Michael. I didn't come up with it.

Leo [00:04:14]:

No, you're right. Being able to distinguish yourself is important to I don't know. It's important to me to be an.

MYLES [00:04:28]:

Engineer when we speak. Right. I'm like, okay, you're definitely an engineer. But to me, I wouldn't say you're more of an activist than an engineer. I wouldn't say that. But I would say that I know you from your acting or your improvisation or whatever that was like. And you're daring, right? And you could be daring to me, both of you. You could be daring to me because we're improv, and you guys are better actors than I am. Right. But when I see you, I'm just like, man, this motherfucker are about no, you sincerely care about everything and everyone that's in your life to the point where you're willing to give them a chance or you're willing to take a second to talk back.

Leo [00:05:32]:

I grab onto things. I grab onto things like, I will see a homeless person and say hi and ask them how they're doing and give them mind, but I also want them to be heard, and I will fixate on that, and I will remember that for a long time. There will be other times when I completely forget about other things, and things leave my brain, and I'll leave stuff everywhere. And the hard part is getting to a place where I understand the things that require that priority. I'm having a hard time.

Samantha [00:06:35]:

Take a second.

MYLES [00:06:36]:

Think about your answer. We can cut out the silence if.

Samantha [00:06:40]:

You need a second. Take 10 seconds to think.

MYLES [00:06:42]:

That's an improv trick.

Samantha [00:06:46]:

I have a follow up question if you want something to like yeah, give.

Leo [00:06:49]:

Me a follow up question.

Samantha [00:06:51]:

What is an engineer?

Leo [00:06:54]:

Well, an engineer has, throughout history, has just been a person who understands some fundamentals about the world and how to practically manipulate them in order to get any desired effect. Oppenheimer recently came out. The desired effect was a bomb and oppenheimer delivered in ancient Rome. A desired effect was clean water. The solution was aqueducts. Very famously, very effectively.

Samantha [00:07:33]:

Almost too effectively. They're still standing. They still function, too. That concrete is actually better quality than concrete.

Leo [00:07:41]:

That's made today the factor of safety on that. I went way overboard. Engineers.

MYLES [00:07:49]:

No, I'm trying to tell Sam to stay on her shit because she knows what I'm doing. Go ahead, though. Go ahead. She does. Sorry.

Leo [00:08:05]:

I.

MYLES [00:08:08]:

See I'm trying serious. I try to have structure, and this is what happened.

Leo [00:08:15]:

I can't stay serious.

MYLES [00:08:17]:

Oh, my God.

Leo [00:08:18]:

I can stay serious ever. I can't stay serious at work. I look for any opportunity that's going.

Samantha [00:08:22]:

To suck working at Cap.

MYLES [00:08:23]:

I don't think I don't think that about you.

Leo [00:08:25]:

No, I do.

MYLES [00:08:26]:

No, I feel like you say you do, but I feel like you do it in the I hate to say because this is going public. Right. I hate to say. It's like a form of fitting in. Right. Because I hope it's not. Right. I feel like with you, it's just like you're trying to find your rhythm. Okay. You know what I mean? So just like when you said an engineer is somebody who fixes the impossible, my follow up question to that, if this was a Co interview, would have been, what is your shit you're trying to fucking build? Right? And it's like, I know you didn't have that, so I think you didn't have that, so I didn't ask you because it would have been like just like a think piece.

Leo [00:09:12]:

No, you can't think about it as something that an engineer is trying to build. It's an engineer trying to solve a problem.

MYLES [00:09:17]:

Right. So what problem are you trying to solve?

Leo [00:09:19]:

Oh, right now trying to figure out how to answer this question.

MYLES [00:09:22]:

Do you see what I'm saying?

Samantha [00:09:24]:

The engineer question?

MYLES [00:09:25]:

No, but the engineer question comes the engineer question that I asked in the beginning was based on him saying I knew what he was going to say. Right. Because he just gave it the technical definition of an engineer. But in your head, what is your thing? What brought you to engineering? Do you have a thing? Or is this like, oh, I'm going to work for an engineering company and make a million dollars and just sail off?

Samantha [00:09:58]:

You're asking me if he has, like, a personal problem that he's trying to solve.

MYLES [00:10:01]:

I feel like you don't get into a field unless you do have that something had to interest you in said profession or just said field. There's always that whole, like, let him bail out.

Leo [00:10:20]:

No, I have the answer, and very lame and fuck you, Sam. No, I was a little kid and I was like, I want to be an astronaut.

MYLES [00:10:32]:

Right? No, you said that.

Leo [00:10:34]:

And the movie The Martian had recently come out, and I was interested in weird gravities and things that controlled the positions of objects that were moving, say, planes or gyroscopes or things that move seemingly with a lot of randomness and a lot of degrees of freedom, but are able to be controlled so effectively. Things like Chaos Machines, where it's just basically like a chain that is laid out and bounces around and predicting where that goes.

Samantha [00:11:24]:

It's all very complicated. And I loved that I ate that up.

Leo [00:11:28]:

And I remember the moment. So I was always on the run, and my mom was driving me to a plate, and I always eaten food super slow, so I took my food in the car. My mom was like, all right, fine.

MYLES [00:11:42]:

Take it with you.

Leo [00:11:43]:

And there was this stir fry that I had on a ceramic plate in the Honda and driving around with the juice of the food still in there, and I was turning it to keep it from spilling in the car as we turned. And I loved being that part and in real time correcting for the changes in perceived force on the plate and the sauce on it.

Samantha [00:12:21]:

I'm with you. Keep going.

Leo [00:12:23]:

I said that.

MYLES [00:12:25]:

Oh, wait a second.

Leo [00:12:28]:

I really like I wait a second. My brothers, two older brothers, both went off to college for me. My brother Tommy was going down the pre med route. My brother Michael was already in medical school. Very, very successful guys. Lots of love to both of them. And my brother Tommy was just like, I'm not sure if I want to do this. What if it's the right thing? What if I get tired of it eventually? And I I really I had a moment where I thought I saw myself in the future, and I liked what I saw. And I I the next day, I looked up cool things to do. I decided astronauts a cool goal. Probably not realistic. I'll keep it as a metric and something to literally a framework to help decide things that I otherwise wouldn't expect. I was like, oh, I want to learn a language that's uncommon Russian, because there were some when the International Space station was shared by Americans and Russian and Russians until the Russians went completely bankrupt over an invasion. So Russian isn't as important anymore, but I've been assured by multiple people that history.

MYLES [00:14:05]:

Russian. Do you know how to speak Russian? Duh. Oh, you said duh, like, in English.

Samantha [00:14:13]:

Is it DA McQueen?

MYLES [00:14:15]:

It's like you like duh.

Leo [00:14:16]:

Duh. All the Russian language is very matted toned, monotone, in a way. And.

Samantha [00:14:33]:

Your microphone cut out, didn't it?

Leo [00:14:34]:

Yes, my microphone is cutting out a little bit every now and then.

Samantha [00:14:37]:

That's happening. Is it still doing it?

Leo [00:14:44]:

I'm still convinced that it has something to do with the way that the mic is moving. If I move around.

Samantha [00:14:50]:

Well, actually, no, maybe you're doing that shit I was doing last week. Driving you crazy, isn't it? Because you can't figure it out. Yeah, like a subconscious feeling. Like, what the fuck is going on? Can't put your finger on it. Like, what's wrong with it? Yeah, there's something wrong with it or something weird. It's not wrong. It's just like I can't understand wait.

Leo [00:15:14]:

I think I got another five minutes on my I'm a Leo.

MYLES [00:15:18]:

We have further questions. You're dragging. I feel like you're dragging out there.

Leo [00:15:22]:

Am I dragging another one? He was another one.

MYLES [00:15:25]:

I was going to ask you, like, your second point, like, when you said, okay, you were engineer first, and the next thing you said was you were romantic, a romantic. So I feel like how old are you?

Leo [00:15:37]:

I'm 22 years old.

MYLES [00:15:39]:

So to be 22 and consider yourself romantic, I feel like absolutely, like, 50.

Samantha [00:15:44]:

Years ago.

MYLES [00:15:47]:

Arrogant, like, you say no. So what do you feel like that's so romantic about you now at 22? Was romantic about you at 22?

Samantha [00:16:00]:

Well, hold on. Can we get a definition? What does being a romantic mean?

Leo [00:16:04]:

Yeah, that's where I would start. So it, first off, does give me an sort of antiquated vibe. I feel like old timey, and I use a sort of old, outdated terminology in order to sort of poke fun at the concept of me being this all knowing sort of guy, just to say something and have people recognize, like, oh, both at the same time. This guy is either so confident that he has got his concept of romantic relationships and art and relationship to menial activities so hard figured out that he considers himself to be almost a philosopher in his interpretation.

MYLES [00:17:07]:

This is what you are or what you're not.

Leo [00:17:10]:

Well, I define myself, and we use words to form ideas, to communicate ideas, and I sometimes use terminology to NEG myself and make sure that people see me or I see myself as not all knowing and not with 100% certainty, with a bit of humility. Or if I can't achieve that with a certain word, then I will completely overblow it and give a crazy word like, I'm a romantic. Like, all right.

MYLES [00:17:58]:

I definitely didn't get that or think that I was going to get that answer. I'll tell you what I thought I was going to get. Please tell me then. You'll have a lot to say about it. I thought that you were going to say that. I thought you were going to talk about your empathy one. Okay. I thought you were going to talk about your understanding of what being a romantic was and how it wasn't definable. Right. This is what I thought you were going to say, but I also thought you were going to say that you're going to be humble and say that you are a novice to it and you can only speak from experience. Right, because that would have been the smoothest thing to say.

Leo [00:18:46]:

That would have been clever.

MYLES [00:18:47]:

Yeah, no, sorry, I didn't mean to take your that have been the smoothest thing to say because I feel like things like the terms you gave in to solidify yourself, I feel like they were it's all subjective. Right? Because of course, it's like, who makes the best sauce? Right. In your head, it's you. Oh, yeah. Right. In your partner's head, it might be you, but at the same time, it is what it is right. To me, that shit might stink. You get what I'm saying? It's like no, it's like until you get that outside view, you really don't know what anyone true, right about anything except for engineering, I would say, because that shit is like true or false unless you elon.

Samantha [00:19:40]:

We'll talk about the engineering process actually has a lot to do with you typically have a customer, generally speaking, in the manufacturing world, for instance, who has a need, and they can only do this, this and this. And they only have this much money, this much space, this much time, this much resources, and you have to accomplish this task, given these limitations.

MYLES [00:20:03]:

Go. And.

Samantha [00:20:07]:

There'S never, like, one way to do things. Sometimes in individual tasks there might be a right way to approach things, but at the end of the day, you can arrange the components on a circuit board a million different.

MYLES [00:20:24]:

Good.

Leo [00:20:24]:

I would like to brag. I am very good at finding one of the simpler ways, not the simplest way. I have in the past, though, done really well.

MYLES [00:20:32]:

Give us an example, Leo.

Leo [00:20:33]:

There was this inchworm robot. We had a long metal beam that stretched about 50ft that was used as a banister for people to walk up a slope at Union College. And we attached magnets to two different wood plates or planks, small things, like two inches across, four inches long. And we had beams connecting those in such a way that a single motor, rotational motor, a DC motor charged with the battery could turn a crank and force the leg that is behind while it is magnetized stay put. And then the leg that is forward to slide up the beam and then activate the magnet at the top, turn off the magnet at the base, and then pull itself up an inchworm along up the beam.

MYLES [00:21:52]:

Can I ask you a personal question?

Leo [00:21:53]:

Go ahead.

MYLES [00:21:55]:

So is there ever a thing that you could remember that you seen?

Leo [00:22:00]:

Like, I wouldn't say your dad, but.

MYLES [00:22:02]:

Maybe your dad, your brothers, your mom struggling with that you would even rate or just say, like, this is a thing that has become so easy to you now. You can't believe that you struggled or lived that way for so long. Well. Oh, God.

Leo [00:22:18]:

I mean, there's helping old fuel is technology.

MYLES [00:22:26]:

I'm talking about then we'll move on to sand. But I'm trying to feel like, was there ever a thing then where you think of now? Whereas, for example, my dad will stay affixiated with remote control batteries. He was like, we got to get the juice out this shit. I'm like, dude, fucking changed the battery a long time ago. But he was all about like, this battery is supposed to work 2000 hours. And if it's not, fuck it, I'm.

Samantha [00:22:59]:

Going to get my 2000 hours, damn it. Yeah.

MYLES [00:23:02]:

I'm not an engineer. You know what I mean? I'll throw away batteries to this day. But now, in hindsight, when I'm thinking about it, I'm like, damn, some shit had to really grind you kids. Like when you're watching your fucking parents try to engineer some shit and they're not engineers, but after your education, you're like, oh, the lawnmower was not working. You just had the wrong fill in it.

Leo [00:23:24]:

Yeah, or like, my partner is like, oh, I put the middle gas at the gas station in the thing. And I'm like, you're getting scammed.

Samantha [00:23:35]:

Oh, the 88 gas, not the 87 or whatever number.

Leo [00:23:39]:

Is there's a specific function that you need a specific motor that will benefit from having 88 gas versus 87 gas to get any benefit? It's not better for your motor. Anyone who tells you that is trying to sell you fuel.

MYLES [00:23:56]:

Fuel, no. Now we on the tangent. Fuel? What do you mean, fuel is not fuel?

Samantha [00:24:03]:

Well, because the engine is designed with particular features in mind that can capture more or less energy from the combustion depending on its chemical makeup. The different grades of gasoline have different chemicals in them that affect its combustion efficiency. Engines are designed to capture that energy in specific ways. 88 and 87 gas combust differently. Therefore, you need different engines that can capture that energy differently, appropriate for the combustion of the particular gasoline. Diesel. Completely different beast. You can't just put diesel in a car because it doesn't ignite with a spark, ignites with compression, for instance. That's like apples and oranges. So if you want to talk like Fuji and Granny, well, there is no fuel as fuel because you got kerosene, you got gasoline.

MYLES [00:24:53]:

No. So gasoline 87. 91 is the same?

Samantha [00:24:57]:

No, they have slightly different chemical makeups.

MYLES [00:25:00]:

But would it make a difference as far as, like, me filling on my thing?

Samantha [00:25:04]:

If you put 88 in your tank, nothing you would notice nothing. You would have wasted money.

MYLES [00:25:08]:

I'm talking about 91.

Samantha [00:25:10]:

The premium. Premium is 93, whatever the fucking number is. If you put premium in a car that wasn't designed for premium, you're just wasting money.

MYLES [00:25:18]:

It won't help you.

Samantha [00:25:20]:

Some cars need it because the lower grades, they can't capture the energy. Your fuel efficiency will just plummet.

MYLES [00:25:28]:

Interesting. Yeah.

Samantha [00:25:29]:

If you have a car that needs premium, you can't put the lower grade in it.

MYLES [00:25:33]:

You'll fuck your engine up, I think.

Leo [00:25:35]:

Pretty sure, yes. No, you're correct. And if you have a car that takes the lowest, like the 87, you can put the higher efficiency gases in there but you are going to get the same efficiency because the maximum efficiency that you are going to get out of the engine that you have cannot exceed that with the type of gas that you put in. Can only go lower, but it can't go lower because everyone can get 87 everywhere. So just use 87 unless you have a specific motor, for God's sake.

Samantha [00:26:13]:

The actual gasoline is produced as cheaply as possible to make it as efficient as possible for your car.

Leo [00:26:20]:

Exactly.

MYLES [00:26:20]:

But in most countries, they don't even use gasoline. They use kerosene in those type of type of fuel.

Samantha [00:26:27]:

It's a different kind of car, but.

MYLES [00:26:29]:

They just don't give a fuck. No, they use regular cars, but I guess they just abuse it and they just don't understand it.

Samantha [00:26:36]:

I have no idea. I know enough about cars to comment on that.

Leo [00:26:39]:

I also don't know enough.

Samantha [00:26:44]:

About I know the gist of it. I don't know what other countries do or how they prevent their cars from breaking. I know the gist.

MYLES [00:26:53]:

Sam. Who are you?

Samantha [00:26:55]:

I am a mystery wrapped in a riddle.

Leo [00:26:59]:

All right, I like that. What's the first word of the riddle?

MYLES [00:27:03]:

Wednesday.

Leo [00:27:05]:

Okay.

Samantha [00:27:06]:

All right, well, next question.

Leo [00:27:07]:

It's good that we're on Tuesday, then.

Samantha [00:27:11]:

I like to think of myself as on some days, I like to think of myself as a creative. I have an engineering degree as well, but I went into it for kind of different reasons. I didn't really have, like, a moment, per se. I got into woodworking and drafting when.

MYLES [00:27:31]:

I was in school, in high school.

Samantha [00:27:33]:

And I was like, all right, this is, like, kind of the next logical step from here because I got really good at woodworking, really good at drafting, and I had them at the same time. So I would, like, on one side of the hallway, I would design my furniture in 3D CAD and stuff, and then I'd hop across the hallway and build it and then get two blue ribbons for the industrial fair at the mall.

MYLES [00:27:56]:

Oh, yeah.

Samantha [00:27:57]:

So everyone's like, you should be an engineer. I'm like, yeah, you're probably right. I really like math. I really liked the process. I liked science. I liked the physics. I was really good at it. But as I went through the coursework, that subject you talked about, leo control theory is basically what you're getting at there. I sucked at that class. I was so upset with myself that I just couldn't wrap my head around seeing the forest from the trees. I got so hung up on all the differential equations and stuff because I didn't really have a good foundation in that at the time. And if I had, I probably wouldn't have had such a hard time. I liked the concept, but at the end of the day, what I really loved about engineering was not, like, the product itself, but I really get jazzed up about how to friggin build it. I love the manufacturing process of how to actually make things. Manufacturing is an, and because I've lived in an actual manufacturing world, my first job out of the Navy, I was a project manager at a manufacturing company, and I actually got my hands on some things to actually see how the stuff actually moves through the plant and how they're actually putting it together. And I got to be a part of that process for real.

MYLES [00:29:11]:

And it was pretty cool.

Samantha [00:29:12]:

But that show how it's made and stuff, I love that show. Just like saying that's how they put that together. Because the process of actually getting something made just seemed way more important to me than the final product itself.

Leo [00:29:26]:

The ability to reach more people with it, too.

MYLES [00:29:30]:

Yeah.

Leo [00:29:30]:

The ability to get a product that meets a criteria of, say, a two x four has a certain bending strength and being able to replicate that, not thousands, not millions, like billions of times.

Samantha [00:29:49]:

Really incredible.

MYLES [00:29:50]:

Yeah.

Samantha [00:29:50]:

And how to optimize that process for the market.

Leo [00:29:54]:

Like the gasoline.

MYLES [00:29:55]:

Yeah.

Samantha [00:29:56]:

And then later on, after I career hopped a little bit, I ended up at a wood shop where I was actually actively working through the processes of making the things that my customers needed made. I was the one doing the making, so I had this really cool job. Fortunately, I don't have that job anymore. That's a different topic.

MYLES [00:30:15]:

You said fortunately.

Samantha [00:30:16]:

Unfortunately. Unfortunately. Yeah.

MYLES [00:30:19]:

Unfortunate what happened.

Samantha [00:30:25]:

Not now, later.

MYLES [00:30:30]:

Do you have any heroes, unsung heroes that you haven't met?

Samantha [00:30:34]:

That I haven't met? Oh, you like a celebrity.

MYLES [00:30:37]:

Or a celebrity. It could be.

Samantha [00:30:38]:

Or like legends.

MYLES [00:30:39]:

So, for example, like, Brene Brown is one of my heroes. I hope to meet her one day. And same with Grant cardone. I've emailed him and we spoke on email, but those are some of my heroes. But a hero that I would never meet is like Davis. But those people I aspire to. So do you have any heroes that help you brave the unknown or just brave brave the unknown is Brown. I don't know.

Samantha [00:31:11]:

That I really have one that I would be like itching to actually meet, per se. I have a lot of people that I admire.

MYLES [00:31:19]:

Name one.

Samantha [00:31:20]:

There's a couple of podcast hosts actually name one. There's a podcast I really like that I've listened to for twelve fucking years. The Skeptic Guide to the Universe. Have you heard that one?

MYLES [00:31:29]:

Have you heard that one?

Samantha [00:31:30]:

They're fucking fantastic. I love them and their consistency and their message and their mission just right to my heart. And those types of people, the ones that have been on the ground, like, actually trying to make an effect change and are actually doing it and actually bringing people together around a common thing, they're fostering community. That's my bread and butter. When those types of people actually have a good, fun message, I glom onto them pretty hard.

MYLES [00:32:01]:

You're so much one of those type of people.

Samantha [00:32:03]:

I am. Yeah, I am. And every great segue. So through my career, exploration and stuff, and all the different social things that I've gotten into over the years since the earliest instance I can remember is Boy Scouts. And were you guys in Boy Scouts? You're familiar with the structure at all?

MYLES [00:32:32]:

Kind of like I read a book because I had a son, and I was like, yeah, before I put him in the shit, I got to read the book, and I don't think I'm going to be down with that.

Samantha [00:32:39]:

Which part got you down?

MYLES [00:32:41]:

It's just like it's too much military mentorship from another man. I just feel like it's a little extra. And you have to be one way how you say that you're the way you are. I feel like I'm more of a style bender. I'm more of a trend creator.

Samantha [00:33:06]:

That you hated being in the military.

MYLES [00:33:08]:

Yeah. That part of me doesn't format with that. I would never force that. Put that on my phone. That's fair, I guess. But I see the value in it. I just know it's a lot of work for me.

Leo [00:33:27]:

Talk to me about so these people that you admire, what are the factors of them that you most admire? Do you think that there are traits that they have that you desire to happen yourself?

Samantha [00:33:43]:

Well, for me, I have a lot of personal challenges that I've been kind of slowly chipping away at over the years. A lot of mental health crap.

MYLES [00:33:57]:

And all the rest.

Samantha [00:33:59]:

And what I've been lacking is not, like, the traits, but really the means and the time and the bandwidth and the money and the this and the that, and coupled with my life just churning in the background, it's been a very significant balance, or rather significant challenge to balance and actually go for it. I was married that was relatively stable until it wasn't.

MYLES [00:34:37]:

How long were you married?

Samantha [00:34:38]:

76 years.

MYLES [00:34:42]:

Yeah. 76 years?

Samantha [00:34:44]:

Yeah. 76 wow. 76 years. I think it was six. I'd have to do the math. I don't know math, but I career hopped a so. But everywhere I've been, I only recently discovered this about myself, like, a month ago. And it was with I don't think you've met her. It's one of the girls that goes, see improv class. Alicia.

MYLES [00:35:05]:

Oh, yeah.

Samantha [00:35:05]:

Real bubbly, big eyes. She's great. Wall of sunshine. She helped me realize this everywhere I've been since Boy Scouts. At every opportunity I've ever seen, I have this compulsion to start some new project where people have to get on board with it and do something cool like this. You raising your hand like that to say, who wants to do a podcast? I'm like, Fuck yes. That shit. Instant enthusiasm. As soon as you said that shit in the room. No hesitation to like, PTSD, though, maybe. I don't know.

MYLES [00:35:44]:

Yeah, but it's like so PTSD to me, and I'll let you continue, but PTSD to me is you chase that high of being important.

Samantha [00:35:54]:

Yeah.

MYLES [00:35:54]:

You see what I'm saying? And for us to get important as vets, it just leaves something. Right. But then you had to understand what I would say.

Samantha [00:36:05]:

Weird. Yeah, we feel itchy right now.

MYLES [00:36:10]:

It's just that what I've come to realize, and this is with therapy, it's just. Like what you've done is to provide people like Leo a life of least worry and no worry. But you were on the clock the whole time. But that's the ultimate sacrifice. You know how people say, like, when you're in the military, you've got just the ultimate sacrifice, and that's it. Because the ultimate sacrifice is time. So, like, when he was in college and doing all this shit down under, you know what I mean? But it is what it is, and that's why I gravitated towards you. I was like, oh, shit, she's fucking ready to go. Let's go. Let's fucking do this shit. And even I bust the shops all the time about like, we know. Not only did you come in five minutes late, but you have something to fuck with.

Samantha [00:37:11]:

Because I'm excited.

MYLES [00:37:13]:

But I feel that genuine care, just like yesterday improv. Like when I don't understand some shit and I ask the question, fucking Sam fucking chops me in my fucking neck. And I'm like, yeah, my bad. But it's like, she understands that. It's a learning experience for me. And I know it's not malicious, but she knows. I guess you could feel love like that. You could feel can like that. You could feel shit like that.

Samantha [00:37:40]:

I felt comfortable doing that with you because I know a little bit. But I'll give Leo the story here. I don't remember exactly what the game was, but.

MYLES [00:37:52]:

We'Re playing this game, right? And it's about control. It's about like Mike says something, you fucking do the opposite, right? No matter what, you got to do the opposite.

Samantha [00:38:07]:

He was very careful about this, and this was a hang up for people. He said, I want you to disobey me.

MYLES [00:38:13]:

Yes, disobey him, right? Most people had to obey, and they made sure they were close. I go, oh, this is no, it wasn't that. Say it was that. Let's say it was that. Because I can do this.

Samantha [00:38:29]:

It doesn't matter.

MYLES [00:38:30]:

I was like, oh, so it's a game of control. There's a lesson in this, okay? And then Sam hits me like, there's a lesson in everything.

Samantha [00:38:40]:

No, that's not what I said.

MYLES [00:38:42]:

No, this is what I took from you.

Samantha [00:38:45]:

That's not what I said.

MYLES [00:38:46]:

Five minutes. Like, she's like, don't fucking say that.

Samantha [00:38:52]:

That's what I said. That wasn't me, though.

MYLES [00:38:54]:

But your slap did that.

Samantha [00:38:57]:

I just tapped you on the shoulder. That must have been someone else because you said something like, what's the process? Or something like that. What's the procedure for figuring out whether to obey or disobey? There was an like, everybody had this, like, Wait, if I disobey, that means I'm obeying you. It was like this weird paradox that people were caught up in. And then Miles, very rightfully so. But you're new to Michael. You're new to Michael and Mobco and all that stuff. And the way you asked the question, it just struck me as like, oh, you're so cute. I know that. That's why I was being tongue in cheek with you. I didn't mean it as like, you're an idiot. I meant it like, oh, you're asking a question that there's literally no answer to. And that's the point. The point of that game was just to be like and the point of that class, which why I find it so profound, is that and the art of improv is, like, you get this simple thing, and you're supposed to ideally just be able to take it and.

MYLES [00:40:04]:

Hop on stage and do it if you fuck up. So what?

Samantha [00:40:11]:

That's the thing. That's part of the learning process where you're like, all right, you take in the instructions, and even if they're vague, the way you happen to interpret the vague version of it has value. So in my mind, questioning it by not questioning it, but, like, probing it for clarity kind of defeats the point a little bit, because you're just supposed to kind of stew in it for a minute and get your own clarity, present it to the class, and then we fucking talk about it. Because that's what makes those moments after the game so magical, is the debriefs when we all talk about how we interpreted the rules. And that's where everybody goes, oh, wow, I didn't even think of that. And everyone's getting all jazzed up and stuff. I've run into this problem, too, where I'm like, Michael, what the hell? Did you just you what are we supposed to I asked too many questions. You've heard me. And I'm like I'm trying to just be like, whatever.

MYLES [00:41:04]:

I'm just going to do it. I appreciate everyone. To me, no question is a dumb question, so I appreciate any question. And then just to be attacked by a friend.

Samantha [00:41:17]:

Oh, my God.

Leo [00:41:18]:

It's a shame.

MYLES [00:41:19]:

It really is.

Samantha [00:41:20]:

Sorry. You got a therapist, right?

MYLES [00:41:22]:

Yeah.

Samantha [00:41:24]:

What question was I answering?

MYLES [00:41:26]:

No, that was it, I guess. Get me out of here, and then we can just go.

Leo [00:41:32]:

Miles, who are you?

MYLES [00:41:35]:

So I feel like I am a curious person. Not in the sense of curiosity, as far as anything else, but the world. I want to know what the world has to offer. Right. Me. And I'm ultimately on this journey of complete understanding. So that poster right there, that's all Doug Huxley, and he wrote a book called The Island, and it really intrigued me. All of the old early 1900 philosopher like, just writers, they intrigued me because I'm like, they didn't have what we have. You see what I'm saying? So I feel like I'm that of now. I'm just not out. Like, I'm open to listening or to understanding what anyone has to do. My heroes are, like, Miles Davis, Richard Pryor, like, all those people as it's in it to understand and just to grow with what I understand as a.

Leo [00:42:48]:

Young person, or for people who haven't heard of these people, what do you like about these people more? I'm so sorry.

Samantha [00:42:58]:

No, Miles is I feel like I.

Leo [00:43:02]:

Have to apologize every time.

MYLES [00:43:08]:

I'm answering all questions, though.

Leo [00:43:11]:

What about these people do you admire brave?

MYLES [00:43:17]:

I feel like courage over confidence is one of my family values where I teach my son. I feel like that's a big thing for me. It's like you got to have courage and to be able to brave the unknown.

Samantha [00:43:29]:

You get 30 seconds with Richard Pryor. What are you going to tell him or ask him?

MYLES [00:43:33]:

I'm not going to ask him nothing, because I feel like I know everything about him that I need to know. You see what I believe? I also believe in the phrase never meet your heroes. I never want to meet Richard Pryor. I feel like what I know about him is what I needed to go with. Same with Miles Davis. What I know about him is what I need. I never want to meet motherfuckers. Kanye is, like, my living hero. I don't want to meet that motherfucker. We would argue, you see what I'm saying? But I love him. You see what I'm saying? It's the same shit beneath Brown. She's the only person I want to meet because I would want to talk to her about, like, want to talk to her about certain things that I would talk to my mom about. But I have a mom about it, so it's not that pressing to me, but I love what she has to say. You dig what I'm saying.

Leo [00:44:23]:

So, like, things that you heroes and your inspirations have done are things that you allow to enter your life, but not everything that they have done as a person. Meeting them and getting a different perspective outside of the utility that you've gleaned from the wisdom and the experience that they've shared, it is important to you to not meet your heroes and that you have a framework that you glean from them.

MYLES [00:45:02]:

Yeah, I feel like, well, the people that we talked about, I can't meet them. Right? Because they're dead, right?

Samantha [00:45:09]:

No, shed them.

MYLES [00:45:11]:

So that's already a rap. I can't meet them, but at the same time, it's like, admiration is bigger to me than anything else, because if there was a chance that I could meet Miles Davis, that would probably be my life's work to just meet that motherfucker. But I feel like you could call it God. You call it the most high. You call it whatever. It put me here to do something just as great or greater without them here.

Samantha [00:45:43]:

Have you ever had a significant change of heart about someone you admired?

MYLES [00:45:46]:

All the time. Tell me about it. So I would say that I said, one of my biggest inspirations is like, and I share the same light as him. I would say, it's gonna hurt me to say because I didn't rehearse this, but it's like John F. Kennedy, right? I admired John F. Kennedy for what he was doing. But his interviewer and this is on my LinkedIn, like Claire Booth, she was like, Every great man is one sentence. And he wasn't that. And he was just going so fast. And I feel like I'm like that sometimes you're going so fast, you never admire what the hell is going on with you right now. So I feel like in my twenty s and my 30s, it was like, speed, speed, speed. So it was like, Yo, what am I doing? That you see how Sam could talk about the scouts? I can't talk about much like that because it's a distant memory for was. I never let anything become a tangible to the point where I cared about it as much as I needed to.

Leo [00:46:58]:

To develop deep work.

MYLES [00:47:02]:

You see what I'm saying? When you're in college, you develop deep work from a professor that's challenging you. But I feel like I was the naysayer of the naysayers. So I was like, if you could do this and I beat you in this because everything is a game to me, if I beat you in this, who are you to say? Who are you to judge? You're just saying judgment was a big thing in my life to the point where I feel like I have to make it to where it's balanced on my terms.

Leo [00:47:36]:

What do you mean on your terms? When is the field level? When is the floor level?

MYLES [00:47:42]:

When it zips up. When it zip. Zip. So it's like this if we play chess right now, right? You don't know my chess background, right? I could probably bust your ass in chess up. You were what?

Samantha [00:48:03]:

Say it again.

MYLES [00:48:03]:

I was a chess master, but I definitely know chess master in the community, in this community that I live in. But I'm nice at chess. Right? But you could think that you're good at chess, but you looking at me. You wouldn't think I was good at chess.

Leo [00:48:18]:

Well, when anyone says they're good at chess, I didn't know that you were a master.

MYLES [00:48:23]:

Yeah, but you're saying that right? But again, it's all perspective. You see what I'm saying? Because you can have a bad day. But I could say, let's go in on the yard and shoot free throws. I could say I'm a free throw master. It don't matter. But I could shoot free throws my yard. I got the advantage. You see what I'm saying? And it's like, I'm infatuated with situations where no one has the advantage. Okay? You know what I mean? Where no one had the advantage. And it's just like, Yo, Sam hit us the other day with like, yo, I was talking a lot. I was like, how do you know that shit? And she's like, I did the fucking algorithm. I'm like, Yo, this shit is dope. But that's not the advantage. But it's like what she has to offer. So it's like that brings value to this. So I feel like every one being has an advantage that needs to shine.

Leo [00:49:33]:

I got you.

MYLES [00:49:35]:

And it can't be somebody else's idea, so it can't work.

Leo [00:49:39]:

How does that tie into fairness, though?

MYLES [00:49:41]:

Because money and things, like anything monetary, it exposes your advantage, right to the point where it becomes vanity. Right? But I feel like you advantage actually shows when you're at a non monetary state. When you're in a non monetary state, like, you two are here for I don't know if we're friends, I don't know what the fuck it is, but we're here. Right, but it's not like I'm giving you $50 every time you leave here. No, you see what I'm saying?

Samantha [00:50:22]:

You can pay us later.

Leo [00:50:24]:

No, I feel like that's what you're not getting paid.

MYLES [00:50:27]:

No, that's what dope shit comes out of, right? No. So like five years down the line, right? This becomes success. We break. Like, people will say, Sam, what's your story? Like yo miles. Drink. And this shouldn't the third Leo, what's your story? And then you're going to have your story. But what we do is going to make podcasting 2.0. It's going to make podcasting to another level, right, as far as I'm concerned, until we stop, right? Because even if we have one listener somewhere else, that's going to brand something else. You know what I'm saying?

Leo [00:51:05]:

But when you we were talking about this before. You were talking about how and you can tell me if I'm interpreting this wrong. You want to reach people and you want to communicate to people and to be a voice of the community. Do you want to do that.

MYLES [00:51:31]:

In.

Leo [00:51:32]:

Order to pass on the knowledge that you've gained?

MYLES [00:51:38]:

No, I feel like this I feel like certain people I feel like I benefit off.

Leo [00:51:49]:

Oh, me too.

MYLES [00:51:50]:

You see, I benefit of repetition. And you two know better. Well, not better than anyone. Maurice Wells knows the best. But it's like you come here, shit is fucking blank slate. And then we try every time until it gets perfect. And then we have to know that's just my shit. That's just like the science of my life. Yeah, right? And if you didn't accept it, I'd be like, yo, nice knowing you. But I know that that's how it has to go for me, right? And it sucks to not have this shit perfect. But I also know we just figured out, like, you, Sam has a significant hearing. Yo, but no, not joke.

Leo [00:52:33]:

I've heard it.

MYLES [00:52:33]:

No, thank you.

Samantha [00:52:36]:

I feel validated now.

MYLES [00:52:37]:

At the end of the day, if it wasn't for the patience that would have never been, I would have thought it was the mic, right? Then I would have dumped the mic. I would have did whatever. But it takes that teamwork. I would like to equate it to like, my wife made me watch my wife made me watch some shit called Empire Records the other day.

Leo [00:52:58]:

You ever see that?

MYLES [00:52:59]:

No.

Leo [00:52:59]:

Explain it.

MYLES [00:53:00]:

So it's like a movie in the I would say it's the 90s, maybe 80s. It's about a record store. They all had the thing that they did, and people were playing music, and it fascinated me because I was born in 1983 and how big record stores were, you know what I'm saying? And it was like their thing was, like, playing new music, and it was like, what is that now? What is that vibe? And how big is the audience now? You see what I'm saying? When I see that people listen to this in France, I'm like, what are they thinking? You know what this is? This is an English podcast. They listen to the shit in. Like, what are they thinking? Do they? Yeah.

Samantha [00:53:46]:

Do you have numbers from so, like.

MYLES [00:53:48]:

What are they thinking in France? What are they thinking? What are they thinking in Wisconsin? Great question.

Leo [00:53:57]:

Now, do you mean it's, like, the interpretation of the things that we say?

MYLES [00:54:02]:

Yeah. Okay. If I heard our conversation, what is my thought? Right? Turn it off. What am I thinking? And I'm very interested in that community, right? Because to listen to anyone new, especially what's out there, you have to be interested, right? Or you have to say, I want to side with this because my feelings are the same. Right? Or like oh, shit. One dude sounds like this. This girl sounds like this. Another dude sounds like this. I'm curious, right? But they're not talking about sex, right? The podcast that have that could be interpretation. No, but I'm saying the podcast before this was generally about that. Yeah. Right? So it was just like, who. What is this? Right? How could they switch gears? How could he switch gears? And it's just like, everybody that's this is not that. Everybody that's that is not this. But listen, and that's why I welcome feedback, right? Because I feel like the consensus is not done until it's the world.

Leo [00:55:32]:

I feel like you're going to be waiting a long time then.

MYLES [00:55:34]:

No, but I feel like I'm going to do it.

Leo [00:55:37]:

Okay, so your goal with you is our goal.

Samantha [00:55:42]:

Your vision for the team is for a universally appealing show to every demographic.

MYLES [00:55:54]:

A universal demographic to where it's like, we all have our own identities, we build our own fan bases, but it all stems around playing yourself, right? So your hive, you tribe, your vessel, whatever, is going to be based on caring about what you think, but they're able to understand, and I feel like that's the new way of learning.

Samantha [00:56:30]:

Try to fill in the blank of.

MYLES [00:56:31]:

This sentence for me, please.

Samantha [00:56:32]:

So I was thinking about this earlier. So for somebody out there who's been listening to this show, wants to get their friend in on it, but they're not even really all that familiar with podcasts, and they say you should totally listen to the Play Myself show because you have 30 seconds to answer that sentence.

MYLES [00:56:54]:

It's interesting.

Samantha [00:56:55]:

I feel like what's the elevator pitch?

MYLES [00:56:57]:

It's interesting. It holds no punches. I struggle to use the word, like, safe. I don't want to use just it's no hose bar. It's like, I'm not scared of you. You're not scared of me. Leo's not scared of me. He's not scared of you. And we just rock and we don't have and I feel like the way we all met has a lot to do with it, but I feel like my struggle in becoming an adult was defining like defining who I am. But I always was the same person. I always was a man. I always was the man I set out to be.

Samantha [00:57:50]:

Must be nice.

MYLES [00:57:50]:

But it's just like no, but it's true. But it's like without offending any that.

Samantha [00:57:58]:

Was a trans joke, by the way.

MYLES [00:57:59]:

No, I don't really care. I don't offend you, ever. Even if I try. I might say some shit that's like off color.

Samantha [00:58:13]:

I would have to be listening to you for me to offend.

MYLES [00:58:15]:

But you don't give a fuck. No, because you know it's based in love. You see what I'm saying? I felt your body. It has nothing to do with anything else.

Samantha [00:58:23]:

It's actually pretty refreshing.

MYLES [00:58:25]:

I feel like more relationships will build if fear wasn't an aspect.

Leo [00:58:35]:

Well, you need a repertoire to establish that. That's why people jump into small talk. Small talk is so boring. But small talk exists so that people can poke and prod and feel out. If a person has a set of moral values that align with other people who they have been able to trust in the past. Say I've been wronged by a person who is really good at tennis, and I associate people who play tennis competitively as being assholes. I'm going to have a hard time getting over that when I'm establishing a new friendship and someone's like, yeah, sorry I can't make it to your party. I'm going to go play in a tennis tournament.

Samantha [00:59:18]:

I'm going to fuck this guy. So I like this idea of small talk. Can we tangent a bit? Have you guys ever been on dating.

Leo [00:59:25]:

Apps or dating app?

Samantha [00:59:28]:

How long were you on there before you actually decided to not use it anymore? I'm going to get away from it. I just want to know.

Leo [00:59:38]:

Also, I'm just curious. Coincidentally, we're like going 20 minutes over, and I meant, oh, we're over.

Samantha [00:59:44]:

Oh, damn.

Leo [00:59:47]:

So I'm going to finish this thought real quick.

Samantha [00:59:49]:

I didn't realize we're open.

Leo [00:59:51]:

I was on the Tinder scene for about three years. I started after started questioning my sexuality a bit, then said, fuck girls. I need girls. And I got on tinder. I need girls. A man. And I met a wonderful, wonderful girl who my my family really didn't like for some reason, to the point of giving in a way that I interpreted it. And my friends have told me after I told them what happened, I interpreted it as a silent threat that they were going to kick me out. And that ended that relationship very quickly. And then after that, I said, no, I'm not going to worry about long term relationships. I got lucky once I'm in college, fuck it. You never live twice. I started doing hookups and stuff, and then it was always an idea in the back of my mind that I really wanted that long term connection, and I wanted it spontaneously. And I think I got it. I'm not saying my partner is perfect in any way. I'm not saying that I'm perfect in any way, but I think that we both are perfect for each other, right? So I'm very lucky in that sense. Also, this is my first long term relationship, so keep that in mind.

Samantha [01:01:46]:

You went way deeper in that answer than I thought. I was just looking for a yeah.

MYLES [01:01:52]:

I love dating apps.

Samantha [01:01:53]:

Dating app.

MYLES [01:01:53]:

So fucking awesome.

Samantha [01:01:54]:

Number of years? Months. How long were you on there?

MYLES [01:01:59]:

Wait. Okay.

Leo [01:02:00]:

So September 2022. I started in October 2020. Yeah, about two years.

Samantha [01:02:10]:

Okay. So do you remember having to go through the process of connecting with somebody and actually starting a conversation? I was usually like, Hi, how are you? How's your weekend going? Yeah, I can't help it.

MYLES [01:02:22]:

I'm sorry.

Samantha [01:02:25]:

I fidget. I have been on dating apps for a while, and I'm back on them.

MYLES [01:02:31]:

Woo.

Samantha [01:02:32]:

And I am now reliving the pain of being asked the same fucking questions over and over. I don't want to tell people how I am over and over. I want people to engage with me when I'm out there. I give people something to talk about.

Leo [01:02:49]:

If you can imagine that. And how do you do that?

Samantha [01:02:53]:

So I'm about to tell you. You mentioned small talk on my profile audience.

MYLES [01:03:00]:

I'm about to fix this. Go ahead.

Samantha [01:03:01]:

What, are you about to cut me off?

MYLES [01:03:03]:

I got you.

Samantha [01:03:04]:

So I came up with this gimmick where on my profile I wouldn't put, like, a bio about myself. I put all these wacko questions that people would be like, oh, that's an interesting question. It's way better than, hi, how are you? And I just came up this running list and there were some of the questions that I was going to use for our interview or our little prompt sessions and stuff.

MYLES [01:03:26]:

I would dialogue.

Samantha [01:03:27]:

Yeah, I just have this big ass list of questions that I would put on my profile.

Leo [01:03:31]:

Read me number six.

Samantha [01:03:33]:

Which number you want?

Leo [01:03:34]:

Read me number six.

Samantha [01:03:37]:

What invention do you wish you could have taken credit for?

MYLES [01:03:44]:

So much pressure. Gosh, that's so hard. Cable TV or the Internet? The Internet. Oh, not those.

Samantha [01:03:57]:

What movie makes you cry? Uncontrollably.

Leo [01:04:00]:

Oh, that one's more. East Wall E. Wall E is the.

MYLES [01:04:04]:

Perfect a dope movie, but uncontrollably. Come on.

Samantha [01:04:08]:

I mean, or at all. What movie makes you cry just because.

MYLES [01:04:11]:

You can't help it? Right now, a movie to me, maybe I'm Toxic Masculinity, but my shit is like a movie can't make me cry like that.

Samantha [01:04:22]:

Especially that.

MYLES [01:04:23]:

I know.

Leo [01:04:23]:

Have you ever cried at a movie?

MYLES [01:04:26]:

I've cried at movies, but never twice in a row. Fuck.

Samantha [01:04:29]:

That the one movie that I can recall that does that to me.

MYLES [01:04:33]:

Oh, got caught flipping.

Samantha [01:04:34]:

Can't do that.

MYLES [01:04:35]:

Yeah, that's it.

Samantha [01:04:40]:

The first movie that did that to me was the Pixar movie, Coco. That last scene with the grandmother destroyed.

MYLES [01:04:48]:

No, I don't think if someone can.

Leo [01:04:50]:

Watch that movie for the first time and have had a relationship with their grandmother, a grandmother, and they don't cry, they're a serial killer.

Samantha [01:04:59]:

The show that does it to me the show that does it to me regularly, TV show is Bluey. Ever watch that show with little dogs?

Leo [01:05:06]:

I've heard that's really popular.

Samantha [01:05:09]:

That show is amazing.

MYLES [01:05:12]:

Really? To cry? Yes, really?

Samantha [01:05:18]:

You got instagram?

MYLES [01:05:19]:

I got to hear this.

Samantha [01:05:20]:

You got instagram.

MYLES [01:05:21]:

I haven't been on it, but I got it.

Samantha [01:05:23]:

So if you have on any of these things, just look up hashtag Bluey and look at the videos that grown ass adults are making about how that fucks them up.

MYLES [01:05:31]:

Yeah, that's traumatized.

Samantha [01:05:33]:

Well, yeah, but most of the episodes have some sort of deep message for adults. It is not a kids show. It is an adult show.

MYLES [01:05:43]:

I'm going to go call my partner.

Samantha [01:05:44]:

Go ahead. I'm done.

MYLES [01:05:47]:

Oh, you got the 930?

Samantha [01:05:48]:

Yeah.

MYLES [01:05:49]:

We can cut it. Cut it. I missed to get off green and out of no outro. But let's do this. What's up?